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Re: The Brick Testament - David vs Saul
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Sat, 7 Jul 2007 02:57:52 GMT
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In lugnet.build.ancient, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
Thanks!
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Pin the spear on the minstrel - I like the inset pillars on the wall of
Saul’s main hall.
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Those are the very same pillars seen in Saul’s throne room. Modular building is
fun.
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Also, the spear decoration is a nice idea, but I’m not
100% on the execution. I wish the clips for the third and fifth spears were
somehow in a nicer arch with the other clips. I don’t have a good build
solution to do so, though.
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Yeah, I tired out numerous configurations of elements to try to get a nice fan
shape for the spears and that was the one that looked best, but it’s not
perfect.
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In 10-11 that’s a great solution to account for
both whatever’s holding the spears and also the holes in that tapestry piece
and make them naturally part of the scene.
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Behind the tapestry’s hole is a 1x2 technic brick with the cross-shaped hole,
and the spear is wedged into that to hold it up.
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In 12, is there a specific
identity for the guy standing next to David who’s not just another soldier?
He’s not in the next two scenes.
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That’s David’s armor bearer. He’s not mentioned in the Bible, but it seems like
the custom is for the leaders of the army to have their own armor-bearers (like
Jonathan and Saul have in other stories) so I figured David should have one. I
think originally I was going to have him holding more of David’s armor. Getting
this series of photos right was a little tricky because it’s where I’m having
David age into a new look. I didn’t want him to be wearing his helmet in this
first shot of him as an adult so that the red hair could be the continuity to
tell you that this is the same character. I think I was going to have the armor
bearer holding his helmet, but then decided the helmet was just too gigantic and
messed up the scene.
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Unique wedding gifts - In the first scene I really like the front of that
building. What are those squares - the bases of jack stone pillars?
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Yes. I had noted that the bottoms of those pillars had a nice shape, and wanted
to try using them in some sort of patterned surface.
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Also the wheel above the door is great - is that simply held by gravity?
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Yes, again. Gravity: the secret LEGO connector.
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I do think there are missed opportunities in this story for
references to your homoerotic reading of David and Jonathan
- perhaps Jonathan should be hiding out watching Michal
watching David?
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Maybe. Didn’t want to overdo it, though. I did have Jonathan crying at David’s
wedding. But I really didn’t want to put too much in there that’s not stated in
the Bible.
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In the wedding scene, I love the flower garland. Threading
those must have been a bear.
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Yeah, that was no fun. :) And then out of the photos I took for that wedding
scene, I almost decided on one where you couldn’t see the garland at all. But
my desire to show off my threading work won the day.
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If at first you don’t succeed, kill kill again - Hmm, in 1-3 I don’t think
that lid is going to fit the barrel - won’t Saul be suspicious when he see’s
David’s fingers holding it up? :)
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Heh. Too true.
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The bridge, complete with Jar-jar head, is outstanding.
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Thanks. I like how that scene turned out. I was getting tired of all the
photos set in Saul’s throne room, so I wanted a very different looking location
for some of the shots set at Saul’s royal palace.
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Is that head merely propped up there?
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Again, it’s gravity at work. And a little friction, I guess. I had tried
connecting Jar-jar’s head in some standard way, but it looked too bulky. To
have it stay in place like that, though, I had to tilt the whole scene up in the
foreground, so the head is leaning back against the bridge.
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Do the hokey pokey - Hmm, I’m not a big fan of the teepee; it seems very out
of place, though once you’ve committed to teepees, the microscale versions
are a cute solution.
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It’d an odd choice I realize. A few translations refer to the “huts” at Ramah,
and I didn’t know quite how to portray that. Seems to be some sort of prophet
summer camp or something.
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BFF - More forays into the homoerotic reading of David and Jonathan. While I
understand that this is a potential reading of this relationship, and it fits
in with the less than reverent treatment in general,
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I’m not sure I’d agree that portraying Jonathan and David’s relationship as
ambiguously homosexual is irreverent. That implies that not doing so (or doing
the opposite) would be reverent?
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I do have to say that I don’t like way that some will assume
that any close male relationship must be so (like, for instance,
Jesus and John, or Frodo and Sam)
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I think it’s far more pervasive to assume that any close relationship between a
male and a female is romantic/sexual. But people rarely take offense at that.
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especially in this case since David is
sort of aggressively heterosexual - multi wives, having Uriah
killed because he was lusting after Bathsheba, many children.
Of course one could argue that this simply says he was
aggressively sexual and that he could have been bi,
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Yes, if indeed the author of 1 Samuel intended the character of David to have
homosexual feelings toward Jonathan, then I think we would have to label such a
David as bisexual. Unless all of that heterosexual stuff was some huge cover-up
operation. :) But that’s not my theory.
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but this was in a very anti-homosexual culture. Anyway, I’m sure others
have discussed the relationship of David and Jonathan to death, and I’m
generally more interested in the LEGO aspects.
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Basically I am trying to follow the text in not explicitly interpreting the
relationship as homosexual, but illustrating it in a way that captures the
suggestiveness and ambiguousness of the text. It’s entirely possible that the
author of 1 Samuel did not intend for the relationship to be seen as homosexual
at all, but in that case, the author chose some pretty surprising ways to
describe it.
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In 33 I particularly like how the spear is suspended off-screen.
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There’s some LEGO support holding it in place, but I’ve already forgotten what I
used. But I agree that shot came out well.
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In 35,41 I don’t think the kneeling David works very well - at
first I was confused as to what that was supposed to be.
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That’s a shame. I thought I’d finally come up with a good way to show someone
in a prostrate position, but I guess it doesn’t come across so well.
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Hee hee, he said “nob” - The floor here is very nice. At first I thought it
was a headlight mosaic, but it’s just plain old studs-up tiles (hmm, maybe
that’s an oxymoron).
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I was so pleased when tan, light gray, and dark gray 2x2 tiles became available
at LEGO.com’s Pick-a-Brick! And yeah, this pattern came out awfully similar to
ones I’ve done with the headlight bricks.
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Doeg lurking in the background is very effective. I assume we’ll
see him again.
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Yes, in fact, I’ve already shot some more scenes with Doeg for the next set of
stories.
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I like the all-yellow alcove set off from the gray room. In that alcove,
what is the groove in the wall about 6 bricks above the floor?
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That’s a 2x12 brick with the slat for the hinged garage pieces.
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For some reason I’m not a fan of the cloth wrapped around the
sword - it somehow seems “unLEGO”, even though I assume that
is official.
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It is indeed official, but hard to recognize when wrapped up like that. Wasn’t
sure how else to portray a sword “wrapped in linen”.
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Looking forward to the next installments.
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Me too!
Very nice to have you comments again, Bruce.
-Brendan
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| Hey Brendan, Another great outing. Pin the spear on the minstrel - I like the inset pillars on the wall of Saul's main hall. Also, the spear decoration is a nice idea, but I'm not 100% on the execution. I wish the clips for the third and fifth (...) (17 years ago, 6-Jul-07, to lugnet.build.ancient, FTX)
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