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Re: Pigs fly, demoniacs are cured, and Jesus puts in one final appearance
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Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:33:53 GMT
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In lugnet.build.ancient, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
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Gerasene Demoniac: I like the effect in the first shot of the disciples at
different heights to show them coming out of the water. Hagrid makes a good
demoniac. What’s the demoniac’s torso, BTW? There appear to be some dots
underneath the beard.
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That’s the same torso as Simon Peter in The Final Appearance -- my custom hairy
chest torso.
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Did you actually cut that chain, or is that
photoshoppery?
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‘shoppery. @8^)
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I’ve always wished there were chains of different lengths,
btw.
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That would be handy.
Yep. This is one of the rare times where I had the foresight to order a bunch
of pigs on Bricklink a week or two before illustrating the story. I think I
have nine pigs total, so there’s occasionally still a little bit of ‘shoppery
going on, but still: that’s a lot of pigs. I’m just glad I found a relatively
easy way to remove the Duplo baby pigs from their patch-of-grass bases. The
first time I tried to pry one loose, it almost destoryed the pig in the process.
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I like the photoshoppery on the dispossession,
but how did Mike Crowley get into the Gerasene?
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I assume he flew.
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The shot of the pigs falling
over the cliff is especially effective. Are the ones in mid-fall just
balancing, attached SNOT-wise, or somehow glued? Or did you quick take
photos while a friend threw pigs at you? :)
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Heh. None of them are actually in motion as the photo was being snapped. Most
of my exposures are 1/4 second, so motion blur would be pretty severe. The
interesting thing I discovered about baby Duplo pigs is that after you free them
of their glued-on green 4x4 base, they actually have a hole in their bellies
that a regular stud fits into. This was very helpful in placing the pigs into
falling positions. The ones on either side of the shot, where there’s part of
the pig you can’t see, are held up by off-screen supports (such as my left
hand). There’s only one support I ‘shopped out, which is the pig who is falling
at a sideways angle. I used a light gray support in his belly hole. It matched
the rocks in the background but not well enough not to be noticeable, so I
resorted to the ‘shop.
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Gaderene Demoniacs: I really like the loose pile of 1x1 plates in the first
picture, it really looks realistic.
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I had that shot all set up, but at the last minute I decided that it was lacking
something. The upper right hand part of the shot was too boring. I happened to
have my bin of light gray 1x1 plates nearby, so I grabbed a handful of them,
dropped them in a row, and voila: the Gadarene jetty.
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In 30-31, how is the left-hand
demoniac’s right hand held on?
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Here’s the answer -- the same setup
from a different angle. Occasionally in times past I’ve used some sticky-goo
stuff for things like this. But I always hate myself afterward for not figuring
out a LEGO-only solution. I’m not sure if this looks quite as good in the end,
but I can sleep far more easily knowing I found a LEGO way out.
Of course, I could have borrowed Casper van Nimwegen’s
ingenious
solution of using a yellow tube in place of standard minifig arms, but upon a
fairly thorough check, it turns out I posess no yellow LEGO tubing to speak of.
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I love the three pigs that are half sticking
through the water.
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I was very pleased with how that came out. I’d used that technique
once before.
I was then later distressed when a newspaper article about the Brick Testament
made the erroneous claim that I have cut off the heads of LEGO horses to achieve
some of my visual effects. But I guess in light of the fact that I have
admitted to occasionaly resorting to the use of a hobby knife to modify bricks,
I can’t really blame them for the confusion.
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In 34, I dislike the way you’ve simply overlapped the
light gray baseplate over a blue baseplate. I think it would look much
better if you stuck gray plates to the blue baseplate the build up a shore.
Also that way you can have a curved shoreline.
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Hmm. Perhaps that was a bit sloppy of me. Maybe I’m losing my touch.
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Jesus’ Final Appearance: I always interpreted 21:7 as Peter had taken off
his robe, presumably to jump in the water to pull out the net or something.
A whole band of naked fishermen is, well, an interesting interpretation.
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I looked into the matter a bit before illustrating. The text does seem to
indicate that Peter was naked (not partially-clothed as it is sometimes
translated). I read arguments on either side of the issue -- that nakedness was
abhorrent to Jews of the time vs. there being many depictions in ancient art of
Hellenistic men fishing in the nude. In the end I just went with what the text
seemed to be saying. That said, it is a bit of a jump, I admit, to apply
Peter’s nakedness to the rest of the disciples fishing with him, but it doesn’t
seem to make more sense to me to have Peter be the only one naked. So I
decided to make them all “casual” to varying degrees.
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And why is John wearing a belt if he doesn’t have pants? ;)
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That was the style for beloved disciples at the time, I understand.
It still is for some of us. @8^)
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In 21:3 I think you
successfully achieved the suggestion that the net is going into the water.
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That’s good. I don’t think I did quite as well when they are trying to pull in
the net, or when Peter is dragging the net ashore. I like how those shots look,
but realistically, the net would have to be folded over on itself in order to
keep all those fish from just sliding right back into the sea. Or maybe this
was part of the mircale.
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What’s up with the cooked fish? Is that new light-bluish-gray? Or sand
blue? If so, from what set? Or is it just a trick of the lighting that makes
them look different from the light gray fish in the other pictures?
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It’s a lighting thing. They’re just plain ol’ light gray. I was having some
trouble capturing colors, and several of the photos were coming out
over-saturated and too reddish. This required more color, levels, contrast, and
brightness, etc, corrections than usual, and resulted in certain colors still
ending up a little off, like those grilled fish.
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The
photo in 21:23 comes up as a broken link for me.
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Hmm. Whoops. Not sure what caused that, but I’ve re-uploaded that story now
and everything seems OK. Here’a
link to
that photo.
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I like the gray flower vase
in the final picture. Also, in the lower right of the last picture, there is
what looks like a red version of the Indian feathers piece from the western
line. What is that and what set is it from?
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That is indeed red Indian feathers. I couldn’t think of where they came from
offhand, but thank goodness
Peeron does.
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These three stories are likely to be the last ones I illustrate for The
Gospels. At least for a good while.
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I hope not for good. A lot of the parables have imagery that would be
perfect for illustration.
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Hmmm, I wasn’t too taken by the other parables, in terms of
illustration-potential.
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Also many of the miracle stories. For instance,
the story of the man who couldn’t walk, so his friends carry him up onto the
roof and then rip out a hole so they can lower the friend in to where Jesus
is speaking--I could imagine alternating shots from the perspective of the
friends on the roof looking down and the people inside looking up. And have
you done the feeding of the 5000, or walking on water, the Transfiguration,
or the ascension? I can’t find these, though I can picture them in my
head--though perhaps that is just because I can imagine how you might
illustrate them.
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Oh yes, I did all these. They were really cool. You even wrote nice comments
about them all. Don’t you remember?
@8^D
I actually did do Jesus walking on water, briefly, in one of the stories for The
Law. The other miracle stories I would consider doing later -- possibly also
the trasfig and the ascension -- they just didn’t call out to me nearly as much
as The Gospel stories I’ve alrady done. And furthermore, my girlfriend is going
to kick my ass if I don’t get back to illustrating the Old Tetsament “where all
the good stories are”. You’ll have to forgive her slight Jewish bias on the
matter.
Thanks as always for the comments and criticisms, Bruce!
-Brendan
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