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Re: Space Original Creations Etc.
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lugnet.build
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Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:55:29 GMT
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Todd, has anyone in the past been nominated or won CLSotW from their MOC's
on Brickshelf? I know it's not really anyone's indivdual Website, but it
does contain alot of people's wonderful creations. What are your thoughts?
Eric
In lugnet.build, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> writes:
>
> > Rick Kujawa wrote:
> > > How do you get on the cool lego site
> > > of the week? I guess you need to be nominated by someone.
> >
> > here's my understanding of the procss
> >
> > Anyone can nominate any site they wish. You can nominate your own. Todd
> > monitors the mail each week and makes a judgement call about which
> > nomination suggestions actually become nominations (that is, get listed
> > as a nominated site) Being nominated builds traffic quite a bit.
>
> Mostly, the judgment call is simple things like, Does this site do anything
> which would miff TLG and make the online community look bad? (Examples:
> Using the red LEGO logo on a splash page, or using the word "LEGO" in a way
> which causes confusion as to whether the site is official or unofficial, or
> using the word "lego" in a 2nd-level domain name.)
>
> Those are objective judgment calls. Other judgment calls are -somewhat-
> subjective, like whether the site is still under heavy construction, or
> whether the subject matter is too thin, or whether the subject matter
> obviously would never have any hope of being voted for (I get quite a few
> nominations from kids with GeoCities pages that only contain links and a
> guestbook.)
>
> The most subjective judgment call is sometimes figuring out whether a
> second-timer should be a re-feature as a "Past Pick Update" or as a totally
> new entry... In some cases, I ask people what they think. For example,
> although Ben Fleskes's main site was already featured last summer,
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> http://www.lugnet.com/cool/site-092.html
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> his new _Millenium_Falcon_ model
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> http://www.lugnet.com/cool/site-143.html
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> was clearly a totally hugely amazing new thing deserving of a whole separate
> entry of its own.
>
> But other than those types of thing, I'd say every site passing the critera
> above basically goes onto the queue for voting at some point.
>
>
> > Once you're nominated, Todd again monitors the mail each week to see how
> > many votes come in for you. There is no mechanical voting process, Todd
> > basically calls it as he sees fit, and some week, you are the site...
>
> 9 out of 10 times, the site with the most accured votes at the end of the
> week is the one that gets "picked" that week. So the voting process (which
> is actually mechanical -- all handled by a CGI script -- actually plays a
> very important role).
>
> Sometimes (especially when the vote is tied or extremely close), it makes
> sense to pick one or the other of two sites arbitrarily, to keep the mix
> from week to week a bit more fresh. (I don't want to feature 5 town sites
> in a row, or 5 CAD sites in a row, for example.)
>
> Also, sometimes a site has a confusing design and doesn't get very many
> votes, even though what's buried there is super-cool if you just dig. So
> sometimes sites like those get a boost, and they need a bit of extra
> commentary to help navigate them and find the cool stuff.
>
>
> > Sites can stay "nominated" without winning for an arbitrarily long
> > period and may eventually be removed, again on Todd's judgement call, if
> > they didn't get chosen by him.
>
> I think only 2 sites have ever been removed...(2 which basically never got
> any votes). All others have eventually gone on to be featured some week
> when they finally accrued enough votes.
>
>
> > Sounds like a whim driven process. But it works surprisingly well. I am
> > amazed every time that I go back and look at past picks. Not every site
> > is one that I think is really really cool, but most of them are, and i
> > suspect that the majority of people think a given site is deserving,
> > even if not everyone does. So I think the process is working great and I
> > would hate to see it change. Todd's judgement is excellent.
>
> Thanks. :)
>
> BTW, if there's some site that hasn't made it to the top of the queue for
> voting, and you really think it should get a priority boost, by all means
> speak up -- I take repeat nominations seriously, especially when they come
> from many different people.
>
>
> > We truly have had some amazing sites. Once GMLTC has their act together
> > and gets all the pictures posted there that are out there in one place
> > or another I expect that one to "win" handily.
>
> PNLTC was featured already...about 1 year ago...
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/cool/site-097.html
>
> ...but there's no reason that it couldn't get on the list again if there
> were something hugely new and cool there. At the very least, a "Past Pick
> Update" may be in order for it at some point.
>
>
> > > I hope my creations
> > > would qualify. I haven't seen any as original.
> >
> > It's probably not useful to go down that reasoning chain. Coolness is
> > determined by a lot of things. You needn't worry about needing to be
> > better at building, that's not what this hobby is about. (1)
>
> In my mind, Rick's creations qualify in a BIG way -- not simply because
> they're cool, but also because they're so original.
>
> Originality certainly does help here -- because the mission of CLSotW is not
> only to expose people to pure eye candy, but also to a wide variety of
> building techniques. (Or photographic enhancement techniques, or artistic
> techniques, or CAD techniques, etc.)
>
> CLSotW is, in other words, intended to be a well-rounded potpourri of cool
> and thought-provoking sites.
>
> --Todd
>
>
> > 1 - I can say that because I know I'm the best at building the things I
> > choose to specialize in, no need for votes or awards to confirm it. :-)
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