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And Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4, too! (Was: Warning when using 1 x 4 x 5 windows!)
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Sat, 9 Oct 2004 19:43:22 GMT
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In lugnet.build, David Eaton wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Tim David wrote:
   Having designed a model in CAD and before I owned the part I assumed that the hollow studs on the top of 1 x 4 x 5 windows would allow the small pins on the bottom of 1 x plates and bricks to be placed on the stud, giving a half stud offset similar to when using, for example, technic beams. How wrong I was! I think the hole is too small, anyway if you’re thinking of doing it, don’t!

Huh! In trying this with 67 windows of my own, I find:
  1. 8 windows have solid studs and won’t ever work (7 black, 1 white)
  2. 4 windows worked just fine (4 white)
  3. 55 didn’t work as you said (27 grey, 14 black, 6 white, 7 new grey, 1 pastel
Since some were in new grey, I can only assume that these are the more recent window molds, and (probably) that the solid-stud versions are the oldest.

Since it seems like a silly change to make the molds NOT work, when they’re obviously intended TO work, I wonder if they’ve never remolded this piece, and the newer varieties of ABS simply don’t quite work with the old mold as well as they once did?

Hi,
I noticed the same fact at the Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4:

It seems to appear only at the newer parts of this type, which have the parts number in it.
The older parts have no parts number, but the LEGO© sign.
The problem seems not to appear in every four holes but in every case in the right two holes.
Theese holes are not deep enough to take the whole pin of a plate or tile.
I think the molding form is too much used, so that more ABS goes in the form and causes the too small hole.
I hope you understand what I mean, English is not my mother language.

   On a similar note, nearly the opposite is true for 1x4 technic rack pieces.

Please, what part do you mean exactly?

   The old style had solid little “plate pins”, whereas the new ones have hollow ones. However, the NEW “plate pins” are too small to fit snugly with hollow studs! And no, the 1x4 technic rack’s pins *don’t* fit with the 1x4x5 window hollow studs.

DaveE

Regards Ronald



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: And Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4, too! (Was: Warning when using 1 x 4 x 5 windows!)
 
(...) [LDrawPart 3743:7] (...) I can confirm this is the case - the new hollow ones have no gripping power at all when used in hollow studs. ROSCO (20 years ago, 9-Oct-04, to lugnet.build, FTX)
  Re: And Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4, too! (Was: Warning when using 1 x 4 x 5 windows!)
 
snip (...) snip Thank you for that information, I will have to look out for that. Tim (20 years ago, 24-Oct-04, to lugnet.build, FTX)

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  Re: Warning when using 1 x 4 x 5 windows!
 
(...) Huh! In trying this with 67 windows of my own, I find: - 8 windows have solid studs and won't ever work (7 black, 1 white) - 4 windows worked just fine (4 white) - 55 didn't work as you said (27 grey, 14 black, 6 white, 7 new grey, 1 pastel (...) (20 years ago, 7-Oct-04, to lugnet.build)

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