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Classic Space set design and building contest
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Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:14:59 GMT
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I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.

It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line (originally
LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is dead --
and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.

So...

I'd like to announce a building contest!

The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.


RULES
-----

1.  Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't ever
released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style.  Design a set
that looks like it might have been a real set at the time.  Every model must
have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs (these
are all-white, all-red, all-yellow, all-blue, and all-black).

2.  To enter, post a message to lugnet.build.contests and lugnet.space and
give the URL showing pictures of your model or models.  After things get
rolling, I'll put together a webpage linking to the entries.

3.  Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000.  Judging begins on December 1.
Only those who have entered the contest may vote.  You can submit more than
one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
build a lot of entries).  Each entry you submit gains you three vote points
in the category of your entry.  You can apply your votes to other people's
models when the voting begins.  (You can't vote for your own models.)  More
details about this later.

4.  Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use pieces
in colors which LEGO has actually produced.


CATEGORIES
----------

There are 11 categories.  Enter as many or as few as you like, and make as
many entries in each category as you like.  Real-life examples follow the
name of each category.  (Note: some of the examples shown below aren't
classic space sets, but help illustrate the size/shape/style/flavor of the
category.)

1. Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships (approx. 20 pieces)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=885,6803,6801,1557,6806,6808,1620_1,1462,1711,1858,1974_4,1875,1887,1916,1954,2543,2847,6902,6816

2. Small Ships (approx. 20-80 pieces)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=891,6824,6848_2,6846,6820,6825,6872,6861_1,6830,6810,6832,6850

3. Medium Ships (approx. 100-200 pieces)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=918_1,924,6890,6891

4. Large Ships (approx. 300-1000 pieces)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=928,6929,6931,6973,6980,6984,6985,6986
   (minimal baseplate use OK but discouraged)

5. Utility Vechicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=894,889,1558,1580_1,6821,6823,6826,6841,6844,6847,6849,6880,6883,6952

6. Walker Vehicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6882,6940,6876

7. Small Mobile Ship Launchers (approx. 50-200 pieces)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6870,6871,6874

8. Mobile Rocket Launchers (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=897,6881,6950

9. Mobile Laboratories (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+6901_1,6926,6927,6928,6925,6933,6989

10. Space Bases (any large size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+920_2,926,6930,6970,6971,6972,6987,6988,6990,6991

11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
   http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
   (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff.  It's gotta be
   believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)


DESIGN CRITERIA
---------------

* Follow the original classic space color schemes as closely as possible.
  (Blue/Gray/Trans-Yellow, Gray/Trans-Green, White/Black/Trans-DarkBlue, etc.)

* Follow the general design principles used in classic space sets.  (It's up
  to you to reverse-engineer the design principles and apply them here. :-)

* Try to use only "period elements" -- elements which actually existed in
  1978-1986.  Use of more modern elements won't disqualify you, but try to
  avoid them if possible.  Your models will be more convincing with older
  elements.

* Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
  Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting models
  with this set!"?  See if you can come up with some neat alternative models.

* Functionality is king!  Go for ships that have compartments that launch
  reconaissance scouts or store equipment, bases that open up and do or store
  interesting things, medium-sized ships that splits into a detachable
  segments, etc.  Come up with some cool stuff!


PRIZES
------

A lifetime supply of Jar-Jar and Timmy heads!  .....No, just kidding.

Actually, this is a contest without prizes.  The fun here is in the doing --
the building and idea-sharing.

The more people participate, the more everyone wins.


A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
-------------------

Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 Space
Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:

   http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/

I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example.  I think it captures
the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit and
uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979.  One is the 2x2.5x2 box
with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches to.
(There might be others...I forget.)

If someone could figure out a way to re-engineer a ship like this using only
period elements, I would be extremely joyful to hear about it (and see it :-)!
One other problem with my design is that the tail end likes to fall off.  In
the quest for "realism," I sacrified a bit of structural integrity.  Points
off for that, of course.  :-)

--Todd



Message has 24 Replies:
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Mark reads announcement for contest. Mark thinks "neat, I'll build something tomorrow" Mark goes to bed and reads for a few minutes. Read read read classic read space read Mark gets up to go build something. Dang it Todd. (URL) a Variation on a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
> 11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space (...) Heyyyyy. I always thought the Aero Module was a sleek little ship. I'm oddly offended... : ( -Jon (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Extremely cool idea, Todd! However, I am kinda mad because I won't be able to enter simply because I don't have any Classic Space figs :( Don't you think that rule could be modified? Weren't there CS sets without minifigs? (Think: Spy Bot) I think (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
(...) This is such perfect timing! I'm just putting finishing touches on L-Draw-ing my "LL932 Galaxy Expedition". It goes the opposite direction of your LittleShip--answering the question "what if Classic Space had been released in the late 1990's." (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
(...) You also used the newer 3x3 wing bits. I don't know exactly when they came out, but they certainly were much later than 1979. Not to pick your design apart, of course. I have done some variants of those ships as well, and I don't recall any (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Rules Question (Classic Space contest)
 
(...) Quick rules question- are existing models eligible if they've been posted somewhere already? Or is this only for new models? I ask because I have a number of creations that could be eligible and yet very limited time to actually build new ones (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Hi, This is a great idea! Really gets juices going. Here's something I did a few months ago. It was going to be for April Fools, but I can't wait any longer. I suppose I'll have to enter this link twice, since there's two sets included. It's a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
OH! Rats. I just took my Mega Galaxy Explorer apart. It was basically a double sized Galaxy Explorer using Star Wars Wings instead of classic space wings... MAN! It was twice as long and twice as wide! Attention Frank Filz.. did you get a picture of (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Awesome contest! I'll enter. <questions> Can I submit models that I did in the past? Like, a year ago? Or will I have to make new ones? Can I submit modifications of a model *and* the original model as one entry? (Example: With classic wings/with (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Well, I've just put one up on the web. I guess this should go under the walker vehicles category (I haven't counted the pieces, but I think it's under 1000...) (URL) rest of the site's still under construction. Jason. (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
(...) Minor nit: These two rules conflict. The Classic Space/Castle helmet hasn't been officially released as an LDraw part. Which makes it hard to include classic space mini-figures in an LDraw model. Roy Earls developed some unofficial versions of (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Can I suggest one more category? 12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more) I like to think big... Royce (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
I took the liberty of starting another thread specifically for actual entries. Check this out: (URL) an apology: I already committed a foul. I missed this part of the rules: (...) Whoops- I submitted 3 on the first day. I'll resubmit two of them on (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Well drat I have too many pieces tied up in Bardiel to make anything too big but fortunatly Bardiel is only 600 pieces so I should be able to get it in one of these categories. ; ) -Jon "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message (...) (24 years ago, 28-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G32Joz.6wH@lugnet.com... (...) models (...) models. (...) Are there scans of the box-backs online somewhere? -John Van (24 years ago, 30-Oct-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
(...) Some people are taking the above a little more literally than I'd intended. I hadn't intended on encouraging hoax-style designs where people fake up catalog scans or instruction scans complete with realistic-looking set numbers -- although I'm (...) (24 years ago, 1-Nov-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
I have few guestions regarding colors and parts. First, the colors. Did these pieces come in black in the Classic Space theme: 1x1 plate, 1x1 round brick, and 1x4 tile? When doing a part count, do the antenna style levers count as one piece? (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
  Website & Entries page for Classic Space contest
 
I've set up some web pages on LUGNET for the 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest: (URL) date, we have 26 entries from 13 entrants (PLMK if I missed anyone or if an entry is misplaced): (URL) 2 entries - Itty Bitty Polybag-Size (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space, lugnet.announce) ! 
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  Voting mechanics for Classic Space contest
 
(...) OK, here are the details... This is a "point-based" system, so you earn points by submitting entries and spend points by voting. Voting begins after the deadline for new entries has passed. Voting ends when the last entrant has completed (...) (24 years ago, 26-Nov-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)  
  Deadline extension (was: Re: Classic Space set design and building contest)
 
(...) At least one person (maybe more) has built models which they haven't yet had a chance to take photos of. I think one person was waiting on the delivery of their first digital camera and had something like 8 or 9 models built. If there aren't (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)  
  Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
 
Hey Y'all: I am by no means a space-head. Please forgive me if I am not able to match up to the design criteria as stated because of my lack of knowledge of the space theme. There is no way that I know about space elements down to the years in which (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)

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