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May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Thomas P. Rafert

Sorry if someone already mentioned this and I missed it. In the May-June 2000 Mania Magazine on page 6 in "the Adventures of the LEGO Maniac" comic, look what symbol is in the computer screen ... LUGNET! Again, sorry if this is old news but I (...) (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.announce) !!

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman

(...) You gotta be kidding me! Wow. Are there any scans of this up anywhere? I don't think our copy of that issue has arrived yet... --Todd (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Thomas P. Rafert

Scanning right now, give me a bit and I'll put it up at brickshelf. Tom (...) -- Thomas's & Kristin's Home Page (URL) Member (URL) (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Thomas P. Rafert

Here you go. Quality isn't the greatest but you can read it. (...) -- Thomas's & Kristin's Home Page (URL) Member (URL) (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman

(...) Do you see anywhere in any fine print on that page or any other page noting that LUGNET and the LUGNET logo are trademarks of LUGNET and/or its owners? --Todd (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Matthew Miller

(...) AWAKIANALBASOTI [1], but I think that this use is a) within fair use and b) cool and fun. It's not really a mention -- rather, a little reference in the background. Those of us who know what it is will think it's cool, and those who don't will (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Tim Courtney

(...) IHTAOTLAILMUNAOTF [1], I think its cool, but there is a minor concern on the asking Todd first deal. If they put some fine print in it would be better too. I wish they would boldy come out and promote Lugnet though... It'll get there in time, (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Thomas P. Rafert

(...) Your welcome Todd. I was surprised I was the first to mention it, I normally get mine after everyone else. I saw Larry answered you questions about the trademarks issue. Same observations here, even with a magnifying glass, nope nothing. Tom (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Erin Windross

(...) Hmmm.... what about the poster on the wall? And the logo of the T on the skateboard? That poster looks to real to be just a comic one.....(Even though it''s pretty blurry) can anyone read what it says? Erin -- (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

This is incredible! —David Simmons

Okay, so they didn't mention the URL or anything, but this is a HUGE leap of recognition by TLG of the adult market since they would allow placement of Lugnet's logo in a Magazine that receives such massive distribution. Not only that, but the fact (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —Mike Stanley

(...) How exactly will it make any difference (assuming some kid puts the image and word on the computer together with a place they can get info) if some kid asks his Dad "hey, what is LUGNET" and his Dad answers, "I dunno." ? Without the URL this (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —Jeff Stembel

(...) And people who *do* happen to find it may very well think something like "Hey, cool! Lego created a website where I can talk to other fans!" And that would be bad... Jeff (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —Mike Stanley

(...) Man, even worse than I had pictured when I wrote that. This sucks. (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —Matthew Miller

(...) 1) not very likely considering the prominent disclaimer on the LUGnet page. 2) certainly not something Lego wants. (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —John Rudy

(...) like "Hey, (...) would (...) And certainly not something Todd or any of us want. Think about it, lugnet by TLG, with flash and stupid animations. It sends shivers down my spine! Yick! -John Rudy (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —Rich Manzo

(...) This is making me sick. Lego went out of their way to give us a little smile when we opened up our mania magazine and we show our respect by doing nothing but criticizing them for the past 24 hours! They put that logo in the mag because they (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.general) !

Re: This is incredible! —Frank Filz

(...) I've got just one comment here: A trademark owner is obligated to pursue situations like this or they could lose their trademark. That perhaps doesn't justify the discussion which is going on here, but that's beside the point. Note also that (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Mike Stanley

(...) Well, aside from the fact that you're fantasizing about the motivation or intent behind the placement of the LUGNET logo... Trademarks are a serious thing. If you don't vigorously protect your trademarks you risk losing them. Just because you (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —Scott Arthur

(...) in (...) This is a good point. These days, within society as a whole, people are too concerned about staying within the law (often just within the law). I think one can be inside the law - but still be morally wrong. If "thinking people", as (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Dave Schuler

(...) Agreed! I was wondering, though; does the Mania magazine have anything like a general Trademark disclaimer? I've read other magazines that say something like "individual trademarks are held by their respective owners, and their mention here (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Matthew Teets

(...) I haven't seen one, but I don't think anyone would have recognized as needing a trademark or I don't think it would have appeared at all. I'm pretty sure most people at Lego didn't make the connection at all or even know our existence. I think (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Rich Manzo

(...) in (...) Thats right. They did ignore the online LEGO community for a very long time, but now thet are not. I good example of this is the fact that the LUGNET logo is in the Mania Magazine. (...) Yes that is the progress I am talking about. (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Mike Stanley

(...) I guess if that's all it takes (for you) to have them make up for years of blowing us off, you must be pretty happy. (...) Does it? Exactly who in TLC/TLG contacted you to explain the purpose behind having that there. I gotta tell you, I'm (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Rich Manzo

(...) No, but I think it is a step in the right direction. (...) That is right I do not know. Neither do you. Lets wait and see what TLC's response is. (...) Well, I do care what the groups opinion is. It does not mean that Todd or Suz must accept (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Why? What does it matter what our opinion on this is? It's only tangentially related to the day to day operation of LUGNET, so let it go. ++Lar (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: This is incredible! —Rose Regner

Rich Manzo wrote in message ... (...) It is rather a fun thing that they did, however, would Lego be so understanding? They put that logo in the (...) LUGNET. (...) Try using Lego logo without permission and see how far these feel good arguments (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Making magazines (was Re: This is incredible!) —Suzanne D. Rich

(...) Sorry for the heavy editing, but I just want to address these parts of your post. You make these statements with such certainty that I would expect you to have actually been in their art dept. when decisions were made. I'd love to discover (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish) !

Re: Making magazines (was Re: This is incredible!) —Matthew Miller

(...) Y'know, this sounds most reasonable to me. Funny that only a few months ago it would have been cool that _anyone_ in Lego acknowledged the existence of LUGnet; now, having actual official recognition in the form of Mr. Justus, the exact same (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)

Re: Making magazines (was Re: This is incredible!) —Gary R. Istok

(...) Thanks for the insight Suzanne! Perhaps we should look at it this way. Lower level LEGO employees are more hip about the LEGO community than mid-level management. Perhaps this is a wink to us from the LEGO rank and file that got past the (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)

Re: This is incredible! —Todd Lehman

(...) A lot. --Todd (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: This is incredible! —John Neal

(...) Yeah, but the same breath I share Todd's and other's concerns about the flippant use of Todd's property. For a company that is *so* protective about its own logo and trade dress, there seems to be a kind of "do as I say, not as I do" (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman

(...) By chance has anyone locally (in Boston area) received their copy of this new issue yet? --Todd (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos, lugnet.org.us.nelug)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Pearson Castner

Wow! LUGNET recognized by TLG? Todd must be so proud. Pearson (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos, lugnet.org.us.nelug)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman

(...) Well, yes and no. Right now, kinda frustrated. It's definitely way exciting to hear this news, but it's also somewhat disenchanting. That is, it's a bit of a jolt to learn of this appearance through the grapevine rather than from TLC directly. (...) (25 years ago, 13-May-00, to lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos, lugnet.org.us.nelug, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Dan Boger

(...) Pretty cool... I agree it's wrong that they didn't mention the URL anywhere, or the TM, but I still think it's freaking cool :) (Not that I get the mania mag - though not for lack of trying... :/ ) :) D&J (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Ben Gatrelle

IF you are not a member of the LEGO Club, and therefore don't get the Mania Magazine, I have about a hundred entry blanks for free membership. Send me a SASE and I'll send you one. If you want to just send me a dollar and your address, or send me a (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca) !

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Bram Lambrecht

(...) Don't most new sets include applications? What always strikes me as funny is that they chrge $7 for additional memberships on the same application. Who would pay $7 for the crummy advertizing brochure otherwise known as Mania Magazine? (I get (...) (25 years ago, 18-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca)

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Ben Gatrelle

(...) Yes most sets now days do come with a free application. There was a time however when they only came in larger sets. Smaller sets had applications that you could send in with payment or a certain number of "collector points" or something like (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca)

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Dean Husby

(...) Of course it's family and friends and they all get read... heh heh. What else do you do with 100's of the things... Also, as a strange note, I know of the little forms you can get in the boxes. That allow you to tell LEGO what you have and (...) (25 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca)

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Tom Stangl

Yeah, I've probably bought 500+ sets in the last 2 years, and have never gotten a survey card :-/ (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (25 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca)

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —John Battcock

Tom Stangl <toms@netscape.com> wrote in message news:39259062.1798BB...ape.com... (...) gotten a (...) 200 (...) Weird, as I opened my Dino sets last couple days, there was a survey card in #5955, AND in #5987. It says I'll get a free gift if I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jun-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca)

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Cary Clark

I bought a bunch of Freestyle polybags and maybe one in four had a survey card. Too bad the cards had expired. You can see the card in the bag through the clear panel, so if you really want one it's something to look for. Cary (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: Want to get the Mania Magazine? —Dean Husby

(...) A keychain they can't sell... Dean -- Coin-Op's For Sale!: (URL) Lego Workshop: (URL) Lego Club: (URL) (24 years ago, 6-Jun-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us, lugnet.loc.ca)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Thomas Main

(...) It is interesting! I see that there is some controversy about the appropriate use of the LUGNET logo and name. IMHO, it would have been nice...but there has to be some room for artistic freedom on the part of the cartoonist....after all, the (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.general)

Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Thomas Main