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Re: ------( Terms of use for lugnet.com )------
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Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:28:18 GMT
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In lugnet.people.newbie, Todd Lehman writes:


                    TERMS OF USE FOR LUGNET.COM


OVERVIEW AND DEFINITIONS

  lugnet.com ("LUGNET") is a privately owned Internet site designed
  and run primarily for the benefit of those who enjoy building with,
  discussing, collecting, buying & selling, trading, and exchanging
  information about LEGO® brand toys.

  As a user of this site, you are expected to read, understand, and
  abide by the Terms of Use as set forth herein.  If a portion is
  unclear to you, you should ask a parent or guardian to explain, or
  write to terms@lugnet.com for clarification.


ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS OF USE

  By using LUGNET, you agree to the following:

  1.  You understand that LUGNET is an unofficial fan-created Internet
      site which is not prepared, sponsored, authorized, or endorsed by
      the LEGO Group of companies and that the Official LEGO World Wide
      Web Site is located at www.lego.com.

  2.  Although this site normally operates 24 hours per day, 7 days per
      week, you understand that this site may experience failures or
      other service outages without notice.

  3.  Although best efforts are made to ensure that information found
      at this site is up-to-date and accurate, you understand that
      inaccuracies or omissions are possible and that this site is not
      necessarily suitable to every purpose.

  4.  LUGNET and its owners and/or operators do not control or censor
      content in discussion groups.  The LUGNET discussion group server
      is provided as a "store and forward" mechanism "as is" without
      filters, which means that you may encounter material which you
      find offensive.  IT IS YOUR SOLE AND INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY
      TO MONITOR OR FILTER CONTENT TO A LEVEL APPROPRIATE TO YOURSELF
      AND/OR YOUR FAMILY.  If you are under 18 years of age, ask your
      parent(s) or guardian(s) for permission and/or supervision before
      using this service and make sure they have read and understood
      this Terms of Use document.

  5.  You will not hold LUGNET or its creators, owners, operators,
      or related entities responsible or liable ("indemnify and hold
      harmless") for the inability to connect to or use this site,
      or for any lost or corrupted data, or for any defamatory or
      offensive material(s) which you may encounter on or originating
      from this site, or for the conduct, opinions, or publications
      of any user, or for any other problem whatsoever relating to the
      use or existence of this site.

  6.  You will not use this site for any illegal activities and you
      will not attempt to gain unauthorized access to this site or to
      other sites or systems through this site.

  7.  By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, or engaging
      in any other form of communication through this service, you are
      granting LUGNET and its owners a perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-
      free, unrestricted, non-exclusive, worldwide license to:

      i.  Use, copy, publish, sublicense, adapt, transmit, archive,
          restore, publicly perform, or display any such communication
          in any medium, and to

      ii. Sublicense to third parties the unrestricted right to
          exercise any or all of the foregoing rights granted with
          respect to the communication.

  8.  You understand that LUGNET owners or operators are regular LEGO
      fans just like you, and that when they post to discussion groups,
      their opinions and comments are their own and do not necessarily
      reflect the opinions or policies of LUGNET.

  9.  You understand that LUGNET and its owners and/or operators have
      no obligation to acknowledge, mediate, or otherwise settle any
      disputes or differences of opinion which may arise between users.

  Although we hope that everyone can play well together, we must
  reserve the right to allow or to refuse access to this site to
  anyone, for any reason, with or without prior warning or explanation.

  Additional terms and conditions appear below.


DISCUSSION GROUP TERMS AND CONDITIONS

  LUGNET includes discussion groups which allow feedback and
  interaction between users.  LUGNET and its owners and/or operators
  do not control or censor messages, information, or files delivered
  to discussion groups.  It is a condition of your use of the
  discussion groups that you do not:

  1.  (do not) Restrict or inhibit any other user from using the
      discussion groups.

  2.  (do not) Falsely present yourself as a representative, employee, or
      official of a LEGO company or of LUGNET through the accidental or
      deliberate use of trademarks or servicemarks in your identity or
      through misleading or confusing statements in your postings.

  3.  (do not) Post anonymously or post any message in which the 'From:'
      header is not an e-mail address under your control.  (Spamblocks
      are OK, however, so long as it is possible for a reasonably
      intelligent human to reconstruct your e-mail address using clearly
      documented instructions, which you must include in each such message.)

  4.  (do not) Post using a pseudonym, alias, screen-name, handle,
      alter-ego, meno, or any other type of name which is not your own
      or which hides your true identity, unless your real name and identity
      is clearly understood, accepted, and documented by the community as
      the true identity behind such messages.

  5.  (do not) Post or transmit any unlawful, threatening, abusive,
      libelous, defamatory, obscene, vulgar, pornographic, profane, or
      indecent information of any kind, including without limitation any
      transmissions constituting or encouraging conduct that would
      constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or
      otherwise violate any local, state, national, or international law.

  6.  (do not) Post or transmit any information, software, or other material
      which violates or infringes upon the rights of others, including
      material which is an invasion of privacy or publicity rights or
      which is protected by copyright, trademark, or other proprietary
      right, or derivative works with respect thereto, without first
      obtaining permission from the owner or right holder.

  7.  (do not) Post or transmit any information, software or other material
      which contains a virus or other harmful component.

  8.  (do not) Post non-plain-text content such as HTML, multi-part MIME
      messages, or so-called "binaries" including but not limited to:
      images, sounds, multimedia files, computer programs, and blocks
      of text created using binary-to-text conversion utilities such
      as BinHex, uuencode, btoa, and PGP message encryptions (short
      PGP signatures, however, are permitted by the server).

  9.  (do not) Post information or material for commercial purposes which
      is not reasonably related to LEGO toys or which contains advertising
      which is not reasonably related to LEGO toys.

  10. (do not) Post or re-post a message excessively, especially unsolicited
      advertisements, even if they are directly or indirectly related
      to LEGO toys.

  11. (do not) Post auction announcements, updates, or listings in
      discussion groups which do not explicitly welcome their presence.
      [If you are unsure whether auction spam is appropriate in a given
      discussion group, check the group's descriptive charter.  If the
      discussion group's charter does not explicitly say that auction
      postings are allowed in the group, then such posts are not welcome.
      Currently, the only LUGNET discussion group which allows auction
      spam is lugnet.market.auction, which was established specifically
      for auctions.

  12. (do not) Stray hopelessly off-topic without moving the discussion
      to a more appropriate location.  (There is a fair amount of leeway
      here, since it is natural for discussions to drift, and moving
      a discussion can sometimes be inconvenient or difficult.  If in
      doubt, appeal to common sense.)

  13. (do not) Cross-post excessively, since many newsreader software
      programs do not handle cross-posted articles elegantly or
      transparently.

  LUGNET, its owners, and its operators have no obligation to monitor
  the discussion groups.  However, LUGNET and its owners and/or
  operators reserve the right at all times to disclose any information
  as necessary to satisfy any law, regulation, or governmental request,
  or to edit, refuse to post, or to remove any information or
  materials, in whole or in part, that in the sole discretion of LUGNET
  and its owners and/or operators are in violation of these terms and
  conditions or of applicable law.

  If you choose to use any mark owned by the LEGO Group as part of your
  identity, you do so at your own risk.  LUGNET can neither advise you
  nor protect you if you infringe on the rights of the LEGO Group.
  However, there are some common-sense guidelines which you must follow
  as additional conditions of your use of the LUGNET discussion groups:

  14. If you use a LEGO mark as part of your identity, and you are not
      an employee or representative of the LEGO Group, you must include
      an appropriate disclaimer in each post you make, noting (a) that
      you are not associated in any way with the LEGO Group and that
      your posts are unofficial and do not represent the views,
      opinions, or policies of the LEGO Group, and (b) that the mark
      or marks you are using are owned by the LEGO Group.

  15. If you are an employee or representative of the LEGO Group, and
      you wish to post as such, you must clearly indicate your title,
      position, or relationship with or within the LEGO Group.  Your
      employer may also require you to include a disclaimer protecting
      them from your personal opinions.

  16. If you are an employee or representative of the LEGO Group, but
      you wish to post on your own behalf as an independent LEGO
      enthusiast and not as an employee or representative, you are not
      required by LUGNET to disclose your affiliation.  However, your
      employer may have its own ideas about your participation; if in
      doubt, consult your employer for appropriate posting guidelines.

  The foregoing is not legal advice, and LUGNET and its owners cannot
  guarantee that it is a bullet-proof formula for avoiding the dilution
  or infringement of marks owned by the LEGO Group or for circumventing
  rules which your employer may impose upon you.  Questions on the
  nature of trademarks or servicemarks should be directed to a
  qualified legal professional.  If in doubt, it is probably wisest
  simply to avoid the use of LEGO trademarks as part of your personal
  identity.


DISCLAIMERS OF WARRANTIES

  LUGNET and/or its owners, creators, operators, and/or related
  entities make no representations about the suitability of the
  information contained in the documents and related graphics
  published at this site for any purpose.  All such documents and
  related graphics are provided "as is" without warranty of any kind.

  LUGNET and its owners and/or operators hereby disclaim all
  warranties and conditions with regard to this information, including
  all implied warranties and conditions of merchantability, fitness
  for a particular purpose, title, and non-infringement.

  The documents and related graphics published on this site may
  include technical inaccuracies, typographical errors, or omissions.
  LUGNET and its owners and/or operators may make improvements,
  changes, and/or additions to the information and/or services
  described herein at any time without notice or explanation.

  Links to third-party Internet sites will let you leave this Internet
  site.  The linked sites are not under the control of LUGNET and
  LUGNET and its owners and/or operators are not responsible for the
  contents of any linked site or any link contained in a linked site,
  or any changes or updates to such sites.  LUGNET is providing these
  links to you only as a conveninece, and the inclusion of any link
  does not imply endorsement by LUGNET or its owners of the site.
  LUGNET and its owners and/or operators do not warrant or make any
  representations regarding the use or results of use of the materials
  in third-party sites in terms of their correctness, accuracy,
  existence, timeliness, reliability, or otherwise.


LIMITATION OF LIABILITY

  In no event shall LUGNET or its owners, operators, and/or related
  entities be liable for any special, direct, indirect, consequential,
  or punitive damages, or any damages whatsoever resulting from loss of
  use, data, or profits, whether in an action of contract, negligence,
  or other tortious action, arising out of or in connection with (a)
  the use or performance of LUGNET, (b) the software, documents,
  information, or services obtained through or from LUGNET, (c) the
  failure to provide or delay in providing any software, document,
  information, or service, or (d) the links to and/or contents of
  third-party Internet sites.

  Additionally, you specifically acknowledge and agree that LUGNET and
  its owners, operators and/or related entities are not liable for any
  defamatory, offensive, or illegal conduct of any user.  If you are
  dissatisfied with any LUGNET material, or with any of the terms and
  conditions herein, your sole and exclusive remedy is to discontinue
  using LUGNET.


TERMINATION

  This agreement is effective until terminated by LUGNET or its owners
  and/or operators, at any time without notice.  In the event of
  termination, you are no longer authorized to access the discussion
  groups and the restrictions imposed upon you with respect to material
  downloaded from the discussion groups, the disclaimers, and
  limitations of liabilities set forth in this agreement, shall
  survive.


SEVERABILITY

  This agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with
  the laws of the State of Massachusetts (U.S.A.) without giving effect
  to any principles or conflicts of law.  If any provision of this
  agreement shall be unlawful, void or for any reason unenforceable,
  then that provision shall be deemed severable from this agreement
  and shall not affect the validity and enforceability of any remaining
  provisions.


COPYRIGHT NOTICE

  Except where otherwise noted or where implicitly understood (such
  as discussion group content created by users or images owned by the
  LEGO Group), all material on this site site is Copyright © by
  Todd S. Lehman and Suzanne D. Rich, 243 White St., Belmont, MA 02478,
  U.S.A.  All rights reserved.


TRADEMARK NOTICES

  LEGO® is a registered trademark of the LEGO Group of companies.

  LUGNET, the LUGNET logo, Fibblesnork, and AucZILLA are trademarks of
  Todd S. Lehman and Suzanne D. Rich.

  Other product and company names mentioned on this site are trademarks
  of their respective owners.


OTHER

  Any rights not expressly granted herein are reserved.

  Contact terms@lugnet.com with questions or problems, as appropriate.


________________________
Last Updated: 7 Mar 2000

I have some problems with the rules (and apprently have possibly violated
some rules without my knowledge).  The first problem is, why should we
respect the laws of Massachusetts?  Not every person from Lugnet is from
Massachusetts so we should create a more universal law for Lugnet, since we
not only have people from all fifty states but all over North America and
all over the world?  Does that make sense to you, Todd and Suzanne?

The second problem (and one I hoped to avoid for the longest and still hope
for to avoid again) is to also bar the use of obscenities from personal
e-mail and other new extensions to e-mail accounts.

People say that I have not contributed anything to Lugnet but I have tried,
certainly I have tried, at least with this letter.

Jesse Long



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(...) First of all, since you have posting right here in Lugnet, you already declared that you agreed on this TOS before, and of course you supposed to read it before accepting. If this is not the case, its certainly your own problem. (...) I (...) (23 years ago, 6-Aug-01, to lugnet.admin.terms)

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