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Re: New stock in - Look before I auction it.
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Date: 
Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:30:14 GMT
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Ron Sedlmeyer wrote:

I read this as "You have 2-3 weeks before I sell this stuff elsewhere. Get it
while you can." Not as an auction announcement. The site does list sets (at
least Technic sets) for sale at a specific price. I see this as for-sale.

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Alison Pike writes:
I have just updated my website at http://www.lego-rebuilders.com I am going
to do another auction in 2/3 weeks so if you want a chance to look and buy
it now before you have to bid. I do ship internationally. Thanks for
looking. Alison

Alison,
Are you trying to sneak an auction announcement into the .buy-sell-trade group
or was this just an accidental oversight?  Please re-read the LUGNET Terms of
Use Agreement if you are confused:

Todd, we seem to have returned to this problem again. We still don't
have clear rules which indicate that it is wrong to list "these items
available for straight sale for 2-3 weeks before I auction them". It
seems to me that this is a legitimate sale and not an auction. I guess
people could just say "this item for sale" and then tell the unlucky
person who happens to not inquire for 2-3 weeks, "sorry, I'm now
auctioning those".

What are you really trying to accomplish here. If your purpose is to
shield people from any exposure to the existance of auctions if they
avoid reading lugnet.market.auction, then Larry's recent post about his
trolley which pointed to the eBay auction for his trolley as a source of
pictures is just as wrong. So would the various "look at this
interesting item being sold on eBay, Gary [Istok], when were these
made?" posts.

If the intent is just to avoid any promotion of auctions, then the rules
need to clearly state what you mean by that, and you need to give a
clear and detailed explanation of why Larry's post about his trolley is
or is not ok.

Why is it that some people just read these posts the way they are
intended (both in this case and the Scott Arthur saga, I immediately
understood the intent of the poster, that they wanted to offer the items
for straight sale, and that the mention of auctioning them if they
didn't sell within a set period of time was just an incidental courtesy
of indicating what the duration of the offer is), and others see
"Auction flog! Auction flog!" "Flay the poster!"? I still ask, are
people really so sensitive to the word "auction" that they will die if
they even hear hint that auctions might be something which might
possibly exist in the world?

We also still don't have resolution on other marketting posts outside of
lugnet.market... (though it seems the incidence of buy-sell-trade posts
in the theme groups has really died off). Is this going to get changed,
or have you abandoned that change.

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Frank Filz

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I read this as "You have 2-3 weeks before I sell this stuff elsewhere. Get it while you can." Not as an auction announcement. The site does list sets (at least Technic sets) for sale at a specific price. I see this as for-sale. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)

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