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Re: Newsgroup structure: some tough decisions
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:11:54 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Frank Filz writes:
Lorbaat wrote:
OK...well, along those lines, as we kicked about in November, we -could-
have subgroups of .forsale -- one for auctions and one for straight sales.
The sticky issue there, though, is still the issue of whether or not an OBO
or an SBA is a regular sale or an auction.  It's not something everyone
will ever agree upon.  However, I think it's impossible for anyone to argue
effectively that an OBO or an SBA is a *straight sale* if straight sale
means essentially "here's the price, take it or leave it."

Agree strongly.  Force it to include a price and be first come first serve,
and anything else by the definition of the Lugnet TOS belongs in Auction.

So if I'm willing to possibly take a lesser offer, or willing to take a
bunch of sets in trade, that's an auction? If there is a group which is
strictly for "this is the price, first person gets it and giving me this
exact amount of money is the only way you'll get it", I can guarantee
that I'll never bother posting there.

There will always be gray areas and blurred lines.  The only real way to
avoid them is to jump to one extreme or the other- ie: either one group
(.market.anything-goes) or a multiplicity of groups (.auction.ebay,
.auction.private, .sale.best-offer, .sale.fixed-price, etc etc ad.naseum)

If the object is to have things as clear as possible, then the first option
is the way to go (although I personally would probably drop .market from my
radar at that point).  lugnet.market.foroffer & lugnet.market.wanted would
be sufficient under that scheme.  However, bundling things like that,
although it makes the rules more clear-cut, also makes the noise-to-signal
go up (for anyone not interested in all* market traffic), which is against
the grain of Lugnet.

The other extreme is more appealing to the compartmentalized dork in me, but
would need more rules- which means more loopholes, more explaining, and more
confusion & mis-placed posts (innocent or otherwise).  There's no easy answer.

James



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(...) So if I'm willing to possibly take a lesser offer, or willing to take a bunch of sets in trade, that's an auction? If there is a group which is strictly for "this is the price, first person gets it and giving me this exact amount of money is (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)

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