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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: <pw checker, play away... some design notes> Oh, and can you post the rank order list somewhere on the page or something? That is, is Outstanding better or worse than Bravissimo! Thanks. ++Lar (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) For one things, it's being a bit too harsh on numeric->alpha conversions like 4->A and 3->E...it should divide the intermediate results by 2 or something internally while computing the score after a transformaion like that. (...) They might be (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) Ah, checked again, it didn't detect "7!" as a mapping for "li", but did detect "7i" as "li". It did reject both passwords though, but it had a lot fewer problems with the "7!" version, and the level changed from "worthless" to "weak". (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) If I even say that I can't answer without giving a hint, that's a hint. Therefore: I can't answer without either giving or not giving away hints as to what it is. :-( ++Lar (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) It catches the isomorphic QWERTY instance of this ("q12we34r") but I'd love to add xy-tables for Dvorak and non-US keyboards. Any data pointers? (...) That's a sneaky one! :) (...) Ooh -- I'd better make sure that it dislikes [0-9]+[xX][0-9]+ (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) Hmmm...not sure how to go about doing this... The way the checker achieves its speed is by looking up all substrings in its dictionary rather than passing every single diciontionary word over all substrings (which could take hours). So, for (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general) !

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) Try again now. :) (...) It doesn't check for up/down/left/right keyboard shifting, no. (...) It doesn't check for cross-keyboard translations either, no. If I can get my hands on more keyboard xy tables, maybe I can check for these too. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) I really would love to see how the failure, but it's not work the risk to log them, just as it's not worth the risk to store raw, non-crypted passwords. In the end, this can never be perfect, and I'm sure it will end up accidentally passing (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) OK, try that again now. Seeing that this site is LEGO-related, it's best to treat "x" and "X" as part of numeric stuff. In fact there are many other things besides 'x' and '=' which are numeric-related. :-o It now very much dislikes numerical (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) OK, try again now. (BOY is this thing getting picky now about numbers and stuff. I hope it's not getting too restrictive. I'll have to stop tinkering at some point soon.) (...) Theoretically infinite in both directions. It's just a number, and (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) I've been playing with the 5 character passwords trying to see how high I can get. So far I've got a 156% (Good). Rob - Rob Farver - mailto:rfarver@rcn.com (2 URLs) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) OK, try again now. It should dislike the "8-9" part enough to fail it. --Todd (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) Not sure how to detect this...it isn't that terrible anyway, is it? (I can see that it comes from "lego*minifig" but it's still probably strong enough?) (...) Now gives a -1030%. (...) Now gives a 200%. If LEGO sets weren't an issue it would (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

password
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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
It really likes: fnark-5- (345%) but hates: fnark-5-lego (-104%) Surely that's squiffy? Or is it based on the theory that being able to guess the 'lego' part will make the 'fnark-5-' more obvious? Richard (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) You could make it stricter I think, send out an email warning with a code# to the member, and block access until they have replied. You could either use the code# to automate unblocking the account, or as part of a manual check. The code# (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) It's a side-effect of downrating fluffy portions even though they don't hurt. That is, if you have a wicked strong 8-character pw (call it "X" for short), then even though "Xlego" is no worse than "X", it takes points off for the fluffy part (...) (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) OK, that helps...that's all I need to know...thanks! (...) Yup! (Although "Lugnet" is a word in Swedish, and it finds this. :) (...) Yup! I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it. --Todd (24 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) Formulae: e=mc^2 - Great (266%) E=mc^2 - Excellent (303%) e=mc^2 - Outstanding (556%) E=mc^2 - Outstanding (594%) Keyboard runs: zdt7cgu9 - Outstanding (491%) zcbmadgj - Outstanding (462%) zfu0xgi- - Outstanding (529%) Software Titles: (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

password
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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) You might want to add ^ for exponentiation. I just posted a list passwords that passed, including 4 variations of the Theory of Relativity. Rob - Rob Farver - mailto:rfarver@rcn.com (2 URLs) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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		Re: Automated password appraisal (Re: New feature: Article rating)
(...) Ah yes! --Todd (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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