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Re: My Stance
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Date: 
Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:42:06 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Matthew Moulton writes:
First off I would like to publicly apologize to Jude.  I do that more
for Jude than I do for me.  I killed my emotions a long time ago, so
sometimes it's hard to remember that everyone else still feels them.
I think the reason I picked Jude and the particular time was that if I
did it I wouldn't really be attacking anything.  Jude didn't have
anything on the webpage, I have no doubt that at some point there will
be many interesting additions to the Lego community and I wouldn't
dare attack those.  As far as the rant on my site I saw myself doing
mostly the same thing.  Attacking what I considered to be the worst
designs.  That doesn't make it right either, but I felt that some
right may come of it in one form or another.  I mean to me a person
could attack the Behemoth on my site and I wouldn't mind.  Why?
Because it's vastly incomplete, needs to be redesigned to look
smoother, more fluid, and there are a lot of ideas that can still be
integrated into it.  And actually I haven't even done anything to the
interior yet.  To me attacking something that is unfinished isn't
really attacking anything.  I know others disagree with me on that and
I know that my opinions have the ability to hurt feelings.  Again, I
am sorry for that, I do not want to cause hurt feelings.  However I am
not sorry for what my actions caused.  Yes I was rude, yes I was
brash, yes I was opinionated, what did it bring?  A closer look at
yourselves.  I'm not going to lie to you, many people do not see me as
a nice person, I try to get people to think differently and sometimes
my methods are very fringe.  Did I deserve to get banned?  In your
minds I'd have to say yes.  I think that perhaps I hit a little too
close to home...in fact I think I hit it right on.  I knew what such
an action could bring, it was my choice, I have to face the
consequences for it.  Ask yourselves this though, did you want me
banned because I attacked Jude, or did you want me banned because of
my harsh opinions?

-Matthew

Matthew,

I have to admit I was mad and hurt. You do not have much of my respect right
now considering the manner in which you pulled your 'stunt'. As far as you
being banned, I am glad Todd did it and I am glad he is giving you the chance
to voice yourself now.

Yesterday I posted a page flaming you and the events that transpired. But Todd
asked me to take it down to not fuel the fire and in fact he replied three
times to my post announcing it each each calmer then the one previous :-). He
was right and I took it down within less than an hour of putting it up.

Even now writing this, I find it hard not to get emotional (angry). But
emotions aside you made a good point, but you did it in a *totally wrong way*.
And you have to suffer the consequences of that, whatever they may be.

I hope we all can come out of this for the better and no, I do not think your
ban should be permanent.

Frankly, you have to decide if you want to forgive the people who crossed you
years ago on RTL. I say this realizing I have to chose to forgive you. And
there are others here that have to do the same.

I know you want to remain part of the community or you would have not
responded to Todd's olive branch. Therefore, I am going to publicly say I
accept your apology and I ask you to accept mine for something you may or may
not have seen (the page I put up).

I hope one day I can call you a friend, and that you will become a positive
participant in the on-line LEGO community. The very time you took to start the
flamewar you could have taken to encourage someone and made a difference that
way.

Jude



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(...) As am I. (...) You had a right to have it. Your webpage is like your home, and when people visit it, it's no different from inviting people into your house. In your house you can express yourself the way you want, be who you are, if people (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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First off I would like to publicly apologize to Jude. I do that more for Jude than I do for me. I killed my emotions a long time ago, so sometimes it's hard to remember that everyone else still feels them. I think the reason I picked Jude and the (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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