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Subject: 
Re: LUGNET Memberships
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:45:34 GMT
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In lugnet.people, Todd Lehman writes:
> 
> Disable accounts on repeated fails and you make it trivial to DoS someone.
> Disable IP addresses and you lock out the innocent on shared proxy servers.
> 
> 
Not if you only disable loggin in as that user from that ip.

> I'm not sure if I'm remembering the figures exactly, but IIRC it currently
> passes 6-character pw's containing an average of approximately 24-26 bits of
> unique information.  To make pw's more "practical" would mean dropping that
> even further (26 is already somewhat risky) down to something like probably
> 18.  Even 2^20 is only one million, and 2^18 is only 1/4 million.  If someone
> ran one innocuous HTTP request per second, it would take less than a week to
> make 2^18 attempts in that more relaxed pw validation scenario.
> 
> 2^18 is open net hockey for crackers.

I think a minimum of 6 characters is a good limit.  It's the character
diversity that is causeing problems.  Also, you could make failed attempts
take a few extra seconds to further delay brute force attacks.  You
cold even make successful logins take a few extra seconds just for good
measure.

BTW, no password is required to post right?

KL



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  Re: LUGNET Memberships
 
(...) Is there a way to tell if a given IP address is a shared proxy server or not? If you disable login access as one user from a given IP address, then you effectively disable login access as _all_ users from that IP address, because it would be (...) (26 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: LUGNET Memberships
 
(...) ouch. How easy is it for a thief to get your customer number? How many digits is your PIN? (...) natch. :) (...) Disable accounts on repeated fails and you make it trivial to DoS someone. Disable IP addresses and you lock out the innocent on (...) (26 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)  

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