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Re: What's happening at Lugnet?
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Date: 
Mon, 17 May 1999 19:23:19 GMT
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Well at least we can be sure you're keeping yourself busy and not
slacking off Todd :)

Seriously though...that's great.  It sounds like a lot of great things
are happening with Lugnet!

-Tim Culberson


Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.admin.general, timcc@geocities.com (Tim Culberson) writes:
I'm just thinking back (quite a ways) to when I first read the big
"document" about what lugnet was going to be.  I'm just wondering Todd,
at what stage you consider Lugnet to be at in terms of the various
"phases" as outlined in the plan document:

It's not really possible to pinpoint a position, as things haven't proceeded
linearly (not that they were really strictly intended to).   Things are in
various places in various stages.

For example, there are several Phase II things in place in various forms
(but little of it is solidified), and there are many Phase I things in place
which are solid and/or solidifying but have turned out much more robust (in
depth of coverage) than originally planned.  There are also a few Phase III
things in various stages of planning/development.

One example of a "sharp detour" is that it was never part of the original
plan to implement a real NNTP newsgroup/newsserver subsystem, so the
creation of this service has, from a certain standpoint, placed the overall
timeframe back by several months (last year August to present), but in doing
so has stimulated an incredible wealth of positively charged byproducts and
and community and has resulted in a much more solid overall infrastructure/
core/base than would otherwise have occurred.

What's on the horizon:

- Restructure the web interface for the newsgroups so that the newsgroups
  (which are actually the core of the entire system) actually look and act
  and feel like the core of the system.

- Each newsgroup gets a meaningful URL associated with its name.  For
  example, the lugnet.legoland.california newsgroup will change from the
  unsightly

     http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.legoland.california

  to the more logical

     http://www.lugnet.com/legoland/california/

  and will have links to related resources right on that ng homepage.

- Coalesce all messages in any sub-hierarchy of the ng system into a single
  virtual group that can be browsed much like a regular group, and give
  "sound bites" for each of these messages, with links to the full messages
  and their full threads.  A by-product of this is that the root homepage of
  the site will be an extremely active page and will show snippets of things
  going on all about the system.  (This is somewhat like the way Slashdot
  works -- it's great for beginners who just stumble into the homepage.)
  The old LUGNET homepage will go away completely and be replaced by
  something hierarchical (not completely unlike Yahoo) and will be
  interface-consistent with the individual new ng homepages.

- Open the doors for paid (one-time lifetime fee) memberships:  sign up to
  be an official LUGNET member (as opposed to just a casual user of the
  system) and be able to interact much more closely with the server.  Not
  much will be offered at first, since other stuff will be going on (being
  developed) at the same time, but some of the early things will be:

  - Associating/listing/identifying oneself with various user groups in the
    system (for example Trains or MindStorms or Fabuland or San Francisco or
    New Zealand).

  - Ability to have automated offers collected for things posted as
    sale/trade/wanted items.  This is a simple form of a classified ad
    and borders on almost being an auction, except that the final
    decisions remain subjective.

  - Ability to snarf copies of lugnet news articles/threads and retain them
    on one's own member page as a collection of yellow-sticky-pad style
    notes to share with others who stop by (who can also snarf copies of
    what you have snarfed, and so on).  This is a simple form of
    collaborative publishing and will tie in with a few of the other core
    concepts including group resources.

  We have a nice little prototype of the map/house thingy but are still
  missing the high-level structure that ties it all together, so that
  probably won't happen for a while yet.  We're still also debating whether
  to have one large "urban sprawl" or to have smaller towns or worlds.
  If we go with towns, the first one may be called Jamestown in honor of
  LDraw's creator.

- Organize relevant/topical links into the various ng/group categories (this
  will be a long, ongoing thing).

- Integrate FAQ entries with their ng's -- mostly on the website but also
  in some form of postings (this will also be a long, ongoing thing).

- Restructure the sets-DB to more closely mirror and integrate with the
  topic groups.

- etc....

--Todd



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  Re: What's happening at Lugnet?
 
(...) It's not really possible to pinpoint a position, as things haven't proceeded linearly (not that they were really strictly intended to). Things are in various places in various stages. For example, there are several Phase II things in place in (...) (25 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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