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Re: Bad news for NASA
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lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.admin.general
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Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:31:41 GMT
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There is some confusion in my mind about whether this topic belongs in .general or .nntp... read the charter for general and it’s on topic there. Plus that’s where every other admin post is. So FUT to both I guess.

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dan Boger wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

   I have forceFUTed your post (and am considering others in the tree as well) to .debate as it’s veering in that direction

...

But since it didn’t actually become a debate, shouldn’t it be left alone?

Whether it was already a debate or not is debatable. The buzzers were going off for me merely on what the topic had veered to already. There doesn’t have to be disagreement for it to fit the (implicit) charter of .debate... parties don’t have to be arguing (I think everyone in the thread is less than 100% impressed with Congress and or NASA...) and that doesn’t fit “generally positive” (from the .geek charter) unless bashing Congress is generally positive.

   I thought it was a very interesting thread, and was surprised to find it just disappeared - if it wasn’t for Steve’s post, I wouldn’t have had any idea that it was “Forced” to move.

That’s an NNTP limitation because it didn’t disappear from the web view. But I agree, I goofed, see below.

  
   Hope that helps. Questions or concerns about the force to my email... I’m still not sure what the right level of notification/intervention is.

Well, at the very least, do what any proper FUT requires - cross post the notification to BOTH groups.

Ya, whoops. I forced first, then replied and forgot to add the original group to the post. Still learning. My bad.

   IMO, forcing threads to move should be a rare occurence, and shouldn’t be abused to move threads around (and disrupt the readership) just because a thread is “veering in that direction”.

But that’s just me thinking aloud.

Thanks for sharing your viewpoint. I don’t know that we have the right answer yet on when to use this tool or not. But I’m not sure this was an abuse, really, or that your characterising it that way is helpful.



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  Re: Bad news for NASA
 
(...) I agree, I'm not sure. I assumed it would belong in .nntp, just because we're talking about threading, and how it should work... But looking at the nntp charter, it's not clear if it belongs there or not. (...) Heh, whatever I think of bashing (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.admin.general)

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