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Hi all,
Two and a half years ago I posted a
QR Class 2800 locomotive. Today
I’ve revisited it. I think the new version might be a tad better.
Comments and criticisms welcome,
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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BS
Hi all,
Two and a half years ago I posted a
QR Class 2800 locomotive.
Today I’ve revisited it. I think the new version might be a tad better.
Comments and criticisms welcome,
Tim
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Less than three, Tim!
Spotlighted! Thanks for sharing.
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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BS
Hi all,
Two and a half years ago I posted a
QR Class 2800 locomotive.
Today I’ve revisited it. I think the new version might be a tad better.
Comments and criticisms welcome,
Tim
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I’m in two minds about the new version. Its better, but because its better the
proportions should be more , errr, proportionate. The first version was on the
(highly detailed) borderline of in the style of an official Lego train and so
the compression could be accepted as a part of the charm. I dunno, I hope I’ve
got across what I’m getting at.
tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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Two and a half years ago I posted a
QR Class 2800 locomotive.
Today I’ve revisited it. I think the new version might be a tad better.
Comments and criticisms welcome,
Tim
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Tim two and a half years ago I prototyped your original for real remember and I
sent you the pictures of the new color scheme correct?? Well the old version
runs on the track this version won’t guaranteed. You really should not have gone
to the 6 wheel bogie concept as it does not work in the 6 wide game.
I made 4 of these all up and I don’t own any any more, Queensland Railway
Workshop Museum at Ipswich own 2 and The QR Board of Directors own the others in
a display cabinet in the board room in Brisbane.
But unlike yours mine have the authentic QR Decal of “QR National” on sides,
front and back along with actual running numbers dedicated to loco’s that where
refurbished and sent down south to help out with freight haulage.
I also have a 5000 class as well in my collection that runs at our permanent
display home now at the Museum at Ipswich all are welcome to come and see.
So I think you should have stuck to the old design and left it alone now some
fool will try and run this on a layout and wonder why it won’t go??
Cheers mate just catching up with you
Peter Member#348 Ex Brisbane Lego Train Group Founder
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In lugnet.trains, Peter Parsons wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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Two and a half years ago I posted a
QR Class 2800 locomotive.
Today I’ve revisited it. I think the new version might be a tad better.
Comments and criticisms welcome,
Tim
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Tim two and a half years ago I prototyped your original for real remember and
I sent you the pictures of the new color scheme correct?? Well the old
version runs on the track this version won’t guaranteed. You really should
not have gone to the 6 wheel bogie concept as it does not work in the 6 wide
game.
I made 4 of these all up and I don’t own any any more, Queensland Railway
Workshop Museum at Ipswich own 2 and The QR Board of Directors own the others
in a display cabinet in the board room in Brisbane.
But unlike yours mine have the authentic QR Decal of “QR National” on sides,
front and back along with actual running numbers dedicated to loco’s that
where refurbished and sent down south to help out with freight haulage.
I also have a 5000 class as well in my collection that runs at our permanent
display home now at the Museum at Ipswich all are welcome to come and see.
So I think you should have stuck to the old design and left it alone now some
fool will try and run this on a layout and wonder why it won’t go??
Cheers mate just catching up with you
Peter Member#348 Ex Brisbane Lego Train Group Founder
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Great work Tim version 2 looks so much better can’t wait to see the loco in
brick, in particular the cab redesign makes a more realistic model, I always
find it good to go back and tweek a model as you can add details that you may
have missed earlier on in the costruction, my Crocodile has had 6 minor rebuilds
over time when I have got either new parts or more parts that I was initially
short of. Peter is it a touch of the green eyed monster we are seeing afterall
the loco’s you built are Tims design anyway, why not try a rebuild yourself,
rather than critcize like a rivet counter. With colour schemes in N.S.W. during
the 1990s you could see 6 different colour schemes on the same class of loco,
some wearing schemes from the 1960s and still kept up to scratch by the running
department, take a look at Pacific Nationals fleet where most former Freight
Corp locos have only had PN sticker put on the side of them, its prototypical
for most railways to be running atleast 3 different schemes at a time over a
period of 20 years.
Regards Dave Co-Founder SLTC
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In lugnet.trains, Peter Parsons wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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Two and a half years ago I posted a
QR Class 2800 locomotive.
Today I’ve revisited it. I think the new version might be a tad better.
Comments and criticisms welcome,
Tim
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Tim two and a half years ago I prototyped your original for real remember and
I sent you the pictures of the new color scheme correct??
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Indeed you did, as credited in the original post. Fortunately with another two
and a half years of public use the range of pictures of the 2800s available
online is broad which allowed me to make up for the loss of the original
prototype pictures with a much broader range of angles and detail shots.
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Well the old
version runs on the track this version won’t guaranteed. You really should
not have gone to the 6 wheel bogie concept as it does not work in the 6 wide
game.
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Actually it is fairly well known that for a short bogie with a sliding axle for
the middle wheel a 6 wheel bogie will work perfectly well. Thus I have created a
short bogie with a sliding axle here. Maybe it won’t work but my experience of
seeing what others have done suggests that it will be fine. If I could be
bothered to build it I would test it but that is, frankly, far too much work for
something that can so easily be modified to work perfectly.
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I made 4 of these all up and I don’t own any any more, Queensland Railway
Workshop Museum at Ipswich own 2 and The QR Board of Directors own the others
in a display cabinet in the board room in Brisbane.
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I’m glad that the original work has proved so popular. I’d hope that this newer
version would prove to be even more so as it is a far better and more authentic
design.
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But unlike yours mine have the authentic QR Decal of “QR National” on sides,
front and back along with actual running numbers dedicated to loco’s that
where refurbished and sent down south to help out with freight haulage.
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As is probably fairly obvious to most people who frequent lugnet.trains I am not
and never will be a rivet counter. For me the interest is in capturing the
spirit of a locomotive or rake in a form which is aesthetically pleasing.
Likewise aside from a brief flirtation in my early days I generally prefer not
to use stickers. Anyone who chooses to add them to my designs is, however,
perfectly able and permitted to do so.
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I also have a 5000 class as well in my collection that runs at our permanent
display home now at the Museum at Ipswich all are welcome to come and see.
So I think you should have stuck to the old design and left it alone now some
fool will try and run this on a layout and wonder why it won’t go??
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Since I’ve not put the MPD up I doubt anyone is going to reverse engineer those
bogies in the near future and if anyone does I’m sure they’ll have the technique
to fix any mistakes I may have made.
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Cheers mate just catching up with you
Peter Member#348 Ex Brisbane Lego Train Group Founder
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Cheers,
Tim
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