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Mount Washington Cog Railway
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Thu, 6 Oct 2005 03:01:25 GMT
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Here’s a model I’ve been working on this week of the Mount Washington Cog Railway in New Hampshire.



For anyone unfamiliar with it, it’s a small steam-powered railroad that takes passengers from the base of Mount Washington to the top. It was first built in 1869ish, and has morphed a bit over the years.

Due to the grade that the train must climb (about 36 degrees I think I read), the locomotive uses a cog that meshes with a rack on the rail line to pull itself slowly up the mountain. The full explanation is here: Mount Washington Cog Railway

I tried to model the same behavior using technic gears and gear racks. Cog Rack

The other thing that I attempted was the distinctive tilted boiler. Because of the steep grade, the boiler is tilted on the locomotive so that it is level when the train is moving up and down the mountain. Locomotive

Power for the model is supplied by a standard battery box hidden within the passenger coach. This required that, unlike the real train, I tether the coach to the locomotive. This turned out to be a good thing though, as the locomotive was back-heavy, and tended to flip over without the weight of the coach holding the front end down. I built switches for the battery box into the roof of the coach so that I don’t need to open it up every time I want to change direction.

I made an AVI file of the train moving up my test track, which I’m estimating to be about 30 to 35 degrees. Climbing the Track

I’ve run it at up to 45 degrees, but it occasionally slips as the locomotive wants to tip backwards, which disengages the gears from the rack.

Now I just need to get enough bricks to build Mount Washington.....

-Elroy


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Re: Mount Washington Cog Railway
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In lugnet.trains, Elroy Davis wrote:
   Here’s a model I’ve been working on this week of the Mount Washington Cog Railway in New Hampshire.



For anyone unfamiliar with it, it’s a small steam-powered railroad that takes passengers from the base of Mount Washington to the top. It was first built in 1869ish, and has morphed a bit over the years.

Due to the grade that the train must climb (about 36 degrees I think I read), the locomotive uses a cog that meshes with a rack on the rail line to pull itself slowly up the mountain. The full explanation is here: Mount Washington Cog Railway

I tried to model the same behavior using technic gears and gear racks. Cog Rack

The other thing that I attempted was the distinctive tilted boiler. Because of the steep grade, the boiler is tilted on the locomotive so that it is level when the train is moving up and down the mountain. Locomotive

Power for the model is supplied by a standard battery box hidden within the passenger coach. This required that, unlike the real train, I tether the coach to the locomotive. This turned out to be a good thing though, as the locomotive was back-heavy, and tended to flip over without the weight of the coach holding the front end down. I built switches for the battery box into the roof of the coach so that I don’t need to open it up every time I want to change direction.

I made an AVI file of the train moving up my test track, which I’m estimating to be about 30 to 35 degrees. Climbing the Track

I’ve run it at up to 45 degrees, but it occasionally slips as the locomotive wants to tip backwards, which disengages the gears from the rack.

Now I just need to get enough bricks to build Mount Washington.....

-Elroy

Interesting model. Strangely I keep finding that I’m thinking microscale each time I see the pic!

I was wondering why you alternated the rack from side to side of the track? Did you find that this gave a more reliable grip? Also, have you experimented with curves? I’m thinking that your alternating method would make curves more of a realistic proposition as the four long rack elements do actually connect between the sleepers (ties) on curve with care (or brute force!) This model has the rack set (it looks like) 1 1/2 studs of centre which obviously works but is not as realistic.

I see that your model is pure rack propulsion, is the Mount Washington Cog Railways pure rack or rack and adhesion?

Tim


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Re: Mount Washington Cog Railway
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Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:59:11 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote:
  
I was wondering why you alternated the rack from side to side of the track? Did you find that this gave a more reliable grip? Also, have you experimented with curves? I’m thinking that your alternating method would make curves more of a realistic proposition as the four long rack elements do actually connect between the sleepers (ties) on curve with care (or brute force!) This model has the rack set (it looks like) 1 1/2 studs of centre which obviously works but is not as realistic.

My original actually had two gear racks running up the center of the track. I didn’t have very many though, so I ended up taking out every other one so that I could make a longer run.

I actually did test it with curves. Alternating the pieces does allow the rack to make it around curves. I didn’t test it at much of an angle, but with what I did test, the train ran almost as smooth as it does on straight track.

  
I see that your model is pure rack propulsion, is the Mount Washington Cog Railways pure rack or rack and adhesion?

The real thing uses a pure cog solution. The steam engines drives the cog, which pulls the locomotive up the mountain. What I thought was interesting is that the locomotive and the passenger coach aren’t actually coupled together. The reason for this is for safety. The coach is braked seperately, and uses some sort of ratchet type system to hold itself in place. This way, if the locomotive fails for some reason, and starts to roll back, the passenger coach will stay put instead of rolling down the mountain too.

-Elroy


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