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"Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message news:GGKIFH.D1t@lugnet.com...
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> The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
> changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new printings.)
> The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
> mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
> be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
> Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.
What a good idea Ben.
I would support that.
A bit like the Retro Station being released in 2 colours, yellow and red. Why not do the Metro Liner in new colours too?
Like a yellow and white Eurostar version.
If they can produce the My Own Train in so many colours, why not apply this concept to other sets too?
What I do wish, is that seeing as they are going to the trouble of making these sets again, why cant they put some of
the bricks from those sets into bulk packs?
I dont want a metroliner, but I do want the roof bricks, and doors with stripes, so I can make more coaches.
I dont want a Guarded Inn, but I do want lots of red (and yellow, and white) tudor wall pieces.
They are making these things anyway - so put some in a packet for me please!
regards
lawrence
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
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> "Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message news:GGKIFH.D1t@lugnet.com...
> >
> > The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
> > changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new printings.)
> > The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
> > mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
> > be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
> > Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.
>
> What a good idea Ben.
> I would support that.
>
> A bit like the Retro Station being released in 2 colours, yellow and red. Why not do the Metro Liner in new colours too?
> Like a yellow and white Eurostar version.
>
> If they can produce the My Own Train in so many colours, why not apply this concept to other sets too?
>
> What I do wish, is that seeing as they are going to the trouble of making these sets again, why cant they put some of
> the bricks from those sets into bulk packs?
> I dont want a metroliner, but I do want the roof bricks, and doors with stripes, so I can make more coaches.
> I dont want a Guarded Inn, but I do want lots of red (and yellow, and white) tudor wall pieces.
> They are making these things anyway - so put some in a packet for me please!
>
> regards
> lawrence
I'd like to see that too, but I'm still getting a metro liner (not saying
that it may end up being used for parts...), and a few club cars (definatly
one for parts...), unless I decide otherwise...
Josh
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> What a good idea Ben.
> I would support that.
>
> A bit like the Retro Station being released in 2 colours, yellow and red.
> Why not do the Metro Liner in new colours too?
> Like a yellow and white Eurostar version.
>
> If they can produce the My Own Train in so many colours, why not apply this
> concept to other sets too?
Well, the MOT has clearly been designed around the concept of
interchangeable colours. The actual inventory of coloured parts is quite
simple - the train is mostly black, with coloured highlights. The majority
of parts are common to all the trains.
I would like to see more models like this - carriages and wagons with
similar interchangeable colours* - but I wouldn't have thought it
financially viable to apply it to older sets. Maybe they could re-mould an
entire production run in a different colour, but then would it really have
the same appeal? I doubt it.
As for the collectors' argument, both the box and instruction are new -
obviously, given the set number. There are differences in some of the
bricks that would indicate an original, but most of these could come from
any set of similar age. I think the main identity of a non-MISB set comes
from the instructions and (if available) the box. Without either of these,
it's just parts.
I think the real problem here is the use of e-bay. People would like to
completely rely on a seller's description, but you can't. The description
can't tell you everything, and you have to go on both your interpretation of
what's there and complete faith in the seller. The only way you could be
sure of what you're buying is to thoroughly inspect the goods before you
buy. Now, all of a sudden, you don't trust anyone offering an original
Guarded Inn. That's not the fault of the Lego Company.
Jason J Railton
*Though I suspect we wouldn't get train doors and windows in the chosen
colour, just the basic bricks. Hmm.
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
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> "Reinhard "Ben" Beneke" <r.beneke@tu-bs.de> wrote in message news:GGKIFH.D1t@lugnet.com...
> >
> > The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
> > changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new printings.)
> > The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
> > mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
> > be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
> > Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.
>
> What a good idea Ben.
> I would support that.
>
> A bit like the Retro Station being released in 2 colours, yellow and red. Why not do the Metro Liner in new colours too?
> Like a yellow and white Eurostar version.
>
> If they can produce the My Own Train in so many colours, why not apply this concept to other sets too?
>
> What I do wish, is that seeing as they are going to the trouble of making these sets again, why cant they put some of
> the bricks from those sets into bulk packs?
> I dont want a metroliner, but I do want the roof bricks, and doors with stripes, so I can make more coaches.
> I dont want a Guarded Inn, but I do want lots of red (and yellow, and white) tudor wall pieces.
> They are making these things anyway - so put some in a packet for me please!
>
> regards
> lawrence
The new steam engine LEGO Trains sets can be bought in several colors but
since we are talking about rereleasing old LEGO sets, I think that people
should choose whatever colors that they want for their sets but in a
relistic frame of mind, that would cost the LEGO Company millions of dollars
to commit such an idea into action so we are left with what LEGO gives us so
if you want to pay more money for custom sets then get a second occupation
or go to a technical school.
I also believe I had made an arguement in the Space section of Lugnet about
rereleasing Blacktron and Space Police sets in the colors of either version,
such as receiving an Allied Avenger in the Blacktron I colors or a Renegade
in the Blacktron II colors or receiving set 6984 in Space Police II colors
or 6986 in Space Police I colors. I believe that since LEGO has already
made these parts that it would not be too difficult for such an action to
occur in the LEGO Company.
Jesse Long
P.S. LEGO Space needs to be reinstated because Rock Raiders, although a
good set, can not hold the LEGO Space universe forever and those transparent
LEGO Bricks in the Belville sets would be very good in LEGO Space sets.
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Jesse Long wrote:
> The new steam engine LEGO Trains sets can be bought in several colors but
> since we are talking about rereleasing old LEGO sets, I think that people
> should choose whatever colors that they want for their sets but in a
> relistic frame of mind, that would cost the LEGO Company millions of dollars
> to commit such an idea into action so we are left with what LEGO gives us so
> if you want to pay more money for custom sets then get a second occupation
> or go to a technical school.
> I also believe I had made an arguement in the Space section of Lugnet about
> rereleasing Blacktron and Space Police sets in the colors of either version,
> such as receiving an Allied Avenger in the Blacktron I colors or a Renegade
> in the Blacktron II colors or receiving set 6984 in Space Police II colors
> or 6986 in Space Police I colors. I believe that since LEGO has already
> made these parts that it would not be too difficult for such an action to
> occur in the LEGO Company.
Something Brad talked about that I haven't seen mention of is that he
wants to head towards more customization of sets. I don't think My Own
Train will be the last color customizeable set. He also mentioned things
"Chinese family dinners" (pick your train engine from column A, two cars
from column B, a caboose from column C, and a track layout from column
D, and get the whole shebang for less than the total cost of each item
purchased individually). He also raised the mosaic as another example of
customized sets. This was in response to a question about the "build
your own set" rumor which floated around a while ago. He was pretty
clear that they wouldn't be offering any "build your own set" piece by
piece any time soon.
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Frank Filz
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