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Re: Could TLG Answer our prayers?...A Millenium Falcon
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Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:27:01 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Derek Schin writes:


Well, the Millenium Falcon model on my page is built exactly to minifig
scale.  The math alone almost killed me when I built it (measure length of
random part from book; convert to length in lego; measure lego; add to
model).  For the record, when I did my calculations, I based a minifig on
being 6 feet tall.  Anyway, some of the more important dimensions:

Length: 24" (77 studs)
Width: 17 1/4" (56 studs)
Cockpit width: 2 1/2" (8 studs)

And of course pictures are at
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/9639/swlego.html


This was one of the first sites I found last year when I went searching for
Lego on the net, and I was blown away!  You can rest assured that the TLG
version of the MF will not be as nice as yours.  Do you still have the model
built?  This would make a great (though daunting) LDraw project.

After looking at the landspeeder, I'm convinced the cockpit could be done at 6
studs (or maybe 6.25) width with a special piece.  This would reduce the
minimum width of a TLG model to 30 studs (35 would look much better), which
should be doable for less than $100.

-John Van


Subject: 
Re: Could TLG Answer our prayers?...A Millenium Falcon
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Date: 
Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:49:46 GMT
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A few comments, keep in mind, dimensions of the Millennium Falcon vary by as
much as 40% depending on what source to use.  But if you scale it based on the
8 studs as the width of the cockpit you come up with number pretty close to
what Derek mentions below.

Regarding a six stud wide cockpit.  That would work if you had a square cross
section, but the cockpit is supposed to be round.  Thus you need a six stud
wide area the full sitting height of the minifig.  That drives the width up to
8 studs in diameter.

Ben



Length: 24" (77 studs)
Width: 17 1/4" (56 studs)
Cockpit width: 2 1/2" (8 studs)

<snip>

After looking at the landspeeder, I'm convinced the cockpit could be done at 6
studs (or maybe 6.25) width with a special piece.  This would reduce the
minimum width of a TLG model to 30 studs (35 would look much better), which
should be doable for less than $100.

-John Van


Subject: 
Re: Could TLG Answer our prayers?...A Millenium Falcon
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Date: 
Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:07:09 GMT
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Ben Fleskes wrote in message ...
A few comments, keep in mind, dimensions of the Millennium Falcon vary by as
much as 40% depending on what source to use.  But if you scale it based on the
8 studs as the width of the cockpit you come up with number pretty close to
what Derek mentions below.

If it's correctly to scale.  As Steve pointed out, a cockpit to overall size
ratio of 1:5 would be the minimum necessary without it looking ridiculous.  I
doubt TLG would be as concerned about exact dimensions as Derek was.  If they
can make a model look good enough to sell, they will.


Regarding a six stud wide cockpit.  That would work if you had a square cross
section, but the cockpit is supposed to be round.  Thus you need a six stud
wide area the full sitting height of the minifig.  That drives the width up to
8 studs in diameter.


Actually you need a 5 stud width at the butt level of the cockpit, 6.?? at the
arm level, and 4.5-5 stud width at the head level.  Hopefully Chewie will be
taller than a normal minifig, so some extra clearance would be needed.  I'll
play around in LDraw with a couple of minifigs and a cylindar and let you know
what I come up with.

-John Van


Subject: 
Re: Could TLG Answer our prayers?...A Millenium Falcon
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Date: 
Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:38:48 GMT
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:49:46 GMT, "Ben Fleskes" <benfleskes@msn.com> wrote:

A few comments, keep in mind, dimensions of the Millennium Falcon vary by as
much as 40% depending on what source to use.  But if you scale it based on the
8 studs as the width of the cockpit you come up with number pretty close to
what Derek mentions below.

Regarding a six stud wide cockpit.  That would work if you had a square cross
section, but the cockpit is supposed to be round.  Thus you need a six stud
wide area the full sitting height of the minifig.  That drives the width up to
8 studs in diameter.

You are correct, but that's assuming the cockpit tube is nearly circular.
If the tube was built to 'suggest' a circular cross-section, it could be
smaller than 8 studs across.

0000
00  00
0    0
0    0
00  00
0000

This would be very cramped.

Other than a totally special piece, the easiest solution is to use the
octagonal corridor pieces (example at
<http://home.att.net/~partsref/images/2466.gif>) and create an 8-wide,
6-high tube.

This still leaves the problem of the cockpit canopy/nose.  The TIE Fighter
porthole wouldn't cut it for this application.  It would work, but it would
be ugly (ugly=not like the real thing).

Steve


Subject: 
Re: Could TLG Answer our prayers?...A Millenium Falcon
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Date: 
Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:59:23 GMT
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John VanZwieten wrote in message ...

If it's correctly to scale.  As Steve pointed out, a cockpit to overall • size
ratio of 1:5 would be the minimum necessary without it looking ridiculous. • I
doubt TLG would be as concerned about exact dimensions as Derek was.  If • they
can make a model look good enough to sell, they will.


True, but I did measure their Y-Wing to see how far off it was from the
correct scale, and you know what?  It was really close.  Everything except
the cockpit was dead-on.  Of course, the cockpit was a bit wrong, but I'll
be fixing that on the Y-Wing I have.

:Derek


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