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Re: Building big
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lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au
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Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:12:09 GMT
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<snip>
The second question is where are the wings on your space craft?  I apologize
for not being able to appreciate some of the larger space craft but I was
one of those people who thought that the Star Destroyer and the Super Star
Destroyer in the Star Wars saga resembled a hybrid of a battleship and a
wedge of cheese.  Almost every builder has millions of attennas and tons of
bulky areas on these ships and none of these people realize that there is
friction in outer space and were these systems to be really existent in
space that about half of the ship would disintegrate while travelling in
space.  I am simply saying that you need some wings on your space craft.  I
am not saying that your space craft is ugly but I am saying that this is a
problem that many people fail to recognize in their designs.

<snip>
Jesse Long

I'll leave the real world technical discussion to the remainder of the
thread but I think it's worth mentioning that you can't criticize the lack
of wings in a Star Wars design without recognizing the frame of reference
they were designed within.  The SW universe contains things like repulsor
lifts and particle shields.  If you have repulsor lifts then you don't need
wings for atmospheric lift, and if you have particle shields then the fabric
of your ship does not encounter friction no matter how thick the cosmic dust.

Why shouldn't a Star Destroyer look like a wedge of cheese?  Maybe the
Emperor is fond of cheese.  Sith Cheese, Inc.  That has a nice ring to it...

John
#388

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Building big
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Date: 
Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:21:35 GMT
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In lugnet.space, John Radtke writes:
<snip>
The second question is where are the wings on your space craft?  I apologize
for not being able to appreciate some of the larger space craft but I was
one of those people who thought that the Star Destroyer and the Super Star
Destroyer in the Star Wars saga resembled a hybrid of a battleship and a
wedge of cheese.  Almost every builder has millions of attennas and tons of
bulky areas on these ships and none of these people realize that there is
friction in outer space and were these systems to be really existent in
space that about half of the ship would disintegrate while travelling in
space.  I am simply saying that you need some wings on your space craft.  I
am not saying that your space craft is ugly but I am saying that this is a
problem that many people fail to recognize in their designs.

<snip>
Jesse Long

I'll leave the real world technical discussion to the remainder of the
thread but I think it's worth mentioning that you can't criticize the lack
of wings in a Star Wars design without recognizing the frame of reference
they were designed within.  The SW universe contains things like repulsor
lifts and particle shields.  If you have repulsor lifts then you don't need
wings for atmospheric lift, and if you have particle shields then the fabric
of your ship does not encounter friction no matter how thick the cosmic dust.

   And if one needs any object lesson on how little wings matter
   on a real spacecraft, one need only look at the fastest craft ever
   created by mankind--Voyager 2.  Wow, that's one streamlined
   space dragster, isn't it?  It didn't even come close to failing,
   given the conditions prevalent in interplanetary space (which is
   much, much, MUCH more particle-rich than interstellar space).
   Now, some systems did go awry, but how many of us can say we've
   owned a vehicle that's worked flawlessly for 20+ years?  Even
   my *bicycle* hasn't held up that well.  ;)

Why shouldn't a Star Destroyer look like a wedge of cheese?  Maybe the
Emperor is fond of cheese.  Sith Cheese, Inc.  That has a nice ring to it...

   Would that be young or old cheese?  I'd prefer some of the
   Alderaan my bagel...what'll *you* be Yavin'?

   Sorry.  Doesn't a da go bah that I don't pun...

   best

   Lindsay

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Building big
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Date: 
Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:14:10 GMT
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"Mr L F Braun" <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
news:GFGJJz.9Ar@lugnet.com...

   And if one needs any object lesson on how little wings matter
   on a real spacecraft, one need only look at the fastest craft ever
   created by mankind--Voyager 2.


Uhh... I thought that Pioneer 10 held that record[1], being slightly faster
than Voyager 2 - but I might have been told that before a couple of crucial
gravitational slingshots in Voyager's journey. If anyone has a reference to
some reasonably definitive and relevant material that'd be great.

--
Cheers,
Paul
LUGNET member 164
http://www.geocities.com/doctorshnub/

[1] Of course, Voyager holds the *gold* record..... ;-)

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Building big
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Date: 
Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:32:58 GMT
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Paul Baulch wrote:

[1] Of course, Voyager holds the *gold* record..... ;-)

That's nice....:-)

Selçuk

 

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