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Re: Crimson Skies MOC: Berserker
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Date: 
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:07:00 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim wrote:
   Hey Jon,

I’m not sure if you meant to be funny or serious but I think the Berserker is absolutely hilarious! It borders on looking like one of those crackpot flying contraptions from old movie reels of the early days of aviation. This airplane is definitely a departure from reality and alternate reality, to the point that it actually steps backward and ignores the advances and conventional wisdom in warplane designs of the WWII era.

Jassim with the smack! Sounds good to me. I’ll address your points and knock them down like the thrift-store mega bloks they are.

   For example, the bi-wing in the front creates a tremendous blind spot for both crewmen (I assume one is a pilot and the other is a navigator or bombardier?). Perhaps the top wing is for extra lift because of the huge gat in front? If so, it may be pointless since the top wing limits crucial visibility in air-to-air combat. I believe that’s one reason why bi-plane fighters were replaced by mono-planes in WWII.

The canard was inspired by the one on the Wright Flyer. When I was building this I actually made sure the cockpits were placed in just the right spot so they could see through the wings fine. And the red supports up front don’t really block the view either. And also, it looks cool.

   Speaking of visibility problems, that big central engine creates a HUGE lateral blind spot for the pilot (whichever side he or she is on). The poor pilot has absolutely no clue what’s happening on the other side of that big ass engine. I guess the guy or gal on the opposite side must be there as a lookout? Or do they trade off piloting the plane in combat, depending on which side the bad guy is on? Or was the Kenworth design team just drunk when they designed this thing?

I dunno man. Maybe it’s like my H-wing. Working together the 2 pilots can form a good picture of the world around them like a left and right eye. Of course these pilots aren’t Jedi...they just rawk.

And Kenworth wasn’t drunk *but* there was a fairly good supply of cheap beer in *my* fridge.

   Another design flaw is situating the crew on the wings. This is a very risky move because both crewmen are totally exposed to gunfire. There doesn’t seem to be much cockpit armor to protect them from direct hits or even ricochets off the other surfaces around them. And the poor saps could get shot clean off the fuselage along with the wing. Also, if the engine gets hit directly, both crewmen are totally screwed if it explodes. Since most of the engine is in the rear of the plane, the odds of a direct hit are much, much greater. With the added drag from those huge pontoons, this airplane is guaranteed to spend most of its combat time with it’s tail in the gun sights of the enemy, eventually lighting up the sky with a spectacular fireball.

Ok now you’re just talkin’ crazy. How can minifigs even shoot at each other? They don’t even have fingers!

Obviously you did not think of this, and therefore acted like an idiot, and therefore I humiliate you.[1]

I’m definitely thinking this is revenge for when I picked apart the Dragonstar. All’s fair though.

   So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and I’m hoping that was your intent. Otherwise, I’m sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the positive side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT building is superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the pieces to accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building ideas and your presentation is excellent, as always.

Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.

[1] Thems more jokes, kids.


   [ j o n ]
zemi.net
moonbase


Subject: 
Re: Crimson Skies MOC: Berserker
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Date: 
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:01:45 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Jon Palmer wrote:

   Obviously you did not think of this, and therefore acted like an idiot, and therefore I humiliate you.[1]

I’m definitely thinking this is revenge for when I picked apart the Dragonstar. All’s fair though.

   So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and I’m hoping that was your intent. Otherwise, I’m sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the positive side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT building is superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the pieces to accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building ideas and your presentation is excellent, as always.

Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.

[1] Thems more jokes, kids.

almost forgot the punchline...


   [ j o n ]
zemi.net
moonbase


Subject: 
Re: Crimson Skies MOC: Berserker
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Date: 
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:13:40 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer wrote:
   In lugnet.build.military, Jon Palmer wrote:
  
Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.

[1] Thems more jokes, kids.

almost forgot the punchline...

NICE... how do you find things like that? :)

-JHK


Subject: 
Re: Crimson Skies MOC: Berserker
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Date: 
Thu, 18 Mar 2004 02:57:00 GMT
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In lugnet.space, John Henry Kruer wrote:

   NICE... how do you find things like that? :)

Careful. People who ask Jon that question tend to get dragged off by the nice men in black suits.

Soren


Subject: 
Re: Crimson Skies MOC: Berserker
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Date: 
Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:52:45 GMT
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   In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer wrote: Jassim with the smack! Sounds good to me. I’ll address your points and knock them down like the thrift-store mega bloks they are.

I’m Rick James, b*%#h. What did the five fingers say to the face? *slap!*

   The canard was inspired by the one on the Wright Flyer. When I was building this I actually made sure the cockpits were placed in just the right spot so they could see through the wings fine. And the red supports up front don’t really block the view either. And also, it looks cool.

Werd.

   I dunno man. Maybe it’s like my H-wing. Working together the 2 pilots can form a good picture of the world around them like a left and right eye. Of course these pilots aren’t Jedi...they just rawk.

Better yet, just say it was an experimental airplane with telepathic mutant pilots.

   And Kenworth wasn’t drunk *but* there was a fairly good supply of cheap beer in *my* fridge.

I knew it!

   Ok now you’re just talkin’ crazy. How can minifigs even shoot at each other? They don’t even have fingers! Obviously you did not think of this, and therefore acted like an idiot, and therefore I humiliate you.[1]

LOL!

   I’m definitely thinking this is revenge for when I picked apart the Dragonstar. All’s fair though.

Revenge? Me?! (quickly hides tattered picture of Jon on dartboard) Whatchya talkin’ about, buddy? I would never uh, ummm... Me???

   Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.

Sorry again if I picked it apart too much. You really did an excellent job of building and presentation. Maybe my humor detector sucks because when I first saw it I couldn’t tell if you deliberately made this design ambigious and were spoofing Kenworth switching from making semi-trucks to warplanes (even calling it the Berserker). I thought it was a gag but I guess the joke is on me.

But the “smack” is strictly about the realism, not Lego building skillz. Yeah, I know the Crimson Skies shizzle is supposed to be fictional anyway but the idea is to take artistic design liberties within the technological limitations of the WWII era. That said, I just think this design is too odd and impractical and is technologically inferior compared to most of the other CS MOC’s presented thus far. So I shared my observations because I know how you value constructive criticism.

--Dan


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