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In lugnet.parts, Gerhard R. Istok wrote:
> In lugnet.parts, Tim David wrote:
> > looking at Clarks printed bars pages http://www.isodomos.com/VPH/Print6
> > http://www.isodomos.com/VPH/Print8 I notice that there seem to loads of
> > tobacconist's signs in various languages. Does anyone know what sets these came
> > in? seems strange for Lego to have them, I know they are old but even so.
> >
> > Tim
>
> Tim,
>
> These tobacco signs were produced from 1955-65. But only in continental Europe.
> First of all the negative connotation to smoking did not exist in the 1950's and
> 1960's. And in continental Europe there were a lot of small mom and pop tobacco
> shops. These only exist in USA/Canada at shopping malls or upscale stores. In
> Europe even today tobacco does not yet have the negative connotation that it
> does in the USA. Canada is even ahead of the US when it comes to warning people
> of the dangers of smoking. In Canada the cigarette boxes will show a cancerous
> lung or mouth cancer in color right on the box!!
>
> But I digress, TLG never gave it another thought as far as selling tobacco Lego
> signs to kids. Those were the times when smoking was respectable.
>
> So you will find TABAK, TABAC, TOBAK, TOBACCHI, TUPAKKAA, and SIGARETTEN.
>
> But interestingly enough, I have not yet come across an American, Canadian,
> British or Australian sign for tobacco.
>
> And the sets that had these were the old beams with names parts packs. I
> finished that chapter in the Lego CD, so here are some:
>
> These first came into production in 1955 when the Town Plan came out. There
> were a few spare parts pack that had these named beams. Here they are:
>
> #1224- (1955-58):Denmark, Norway, Sweden.
> #226 - (1956-58):Germany, Switzerland, Ausria, Belgium, Netherlands, Portugal.
> #226 - (1958-65):Continental Europe, Britain, Australia, USA, Canada.
> #426 - (1966-72):Britain, Australia and Canada(until 1968).
>
> Here are some 1958-65 variations (by country) on the #226 named beams spare
> parts packs. Note: there were 7 beams in continental Europe, Britain and
> Australia. There were 10 bemas in the set in USA/Canada (which is why some are
> repeated more than once in the same box). Note there about 12 different named
> beams available for the continental European #226 sets. Since the set has only
> 7, no 2 sets will have the same ones.
>
>
> Country (Total # in #226) Names on Beams (upper or upper/lower case)
>
> USA/Canada(10) - GROCERY, STORE, STORE, STORE, ESSO SERVICE,
> GARAGE, CAFE, THEATER, HOTEL, HOTEL
>
> Norway (7) - SLAKTER, POST, TOBAK, KIOSK, TAXA, GARAGE, HOTEL
>
> Germany (7) - TABAK, CAFÉ, Würstchen, POST, TAXE, HOTEL, GARAGE
>
> Britain (7) - CAFÉ, TAXI, HOTEL, GARAGE, KIOSK, FIRE-STATION,
> ESSO SERVICE
>
> Italy (7) - TEATRO, RISTORANTE, ALBERGO, DROGHERIA, GARAGE,
> PANETTERIA, TABACCHI
>
> Netherlands (7)- Automatiek, ESSO SERVICE, POSTERIJEN, TAXI’S,
> SIGARETTEN, PHILIPS, HOTEL
>
> Finland (7) - ESSO HIULTO, TUPAKKAA, HOTELLI, TEATTERI,
> TAKSI, KIOSKI, KAHVILA
>
> Denmark (7) - BANEGARD, BAGER, BRANDSTATION, KOBMAND,
> SLAGTER, TOBAK, HOTEL
>
> France (7) - BOULANGERIE, GARE, CAFÉ, CINEMA, HOTEL,
> KIOSK, GARAGE
>
> Sweden (7) - SPECERIER, POST, TOBAK, GARAGE, HOTELL,
> TAXA, TEATER
>
>
> Gary Istok
I almost forgot, there was one set that did have Tobacconist in it. That was
the #210/#1210 Small Shop sets of 1955-65. These were available with multiple
names on the named beams. The example in the Lugnet database is a German one,
which was available with "TOBAK", "BACKER" (Bakery) and "WURSTCHEN" (Butcher
shop or sausage stand). In the German instance, the letter of the alphabet hand
stamped stamped on the outside of the little box ("T" or "B" or "W") determined
which sign came inside. Each European Lego country had their own local language
variations. This set was not sold in USA/Canada.
Gary Istok
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| (...) This should probably be "BANEGÅRD" and "KØBMAND", although you may be aware of this already. In Denmark they write "HOTEL", and not "HOTELL", so this is correct. Fredrik (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.parts, lugnet.general)
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| (...) Tim, These tobacco signs were produced from 1955-65. But only in continental Europe. First of all the negative connotation to smoking did not exist in the 1950's and 1960's. And in continental Europe there were a lot of small mom and pop (...) (19 years ago, 28-Jun-05, to lugnet.parts, lugnet.general)
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