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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Simmons wrote:
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In lugnet.ambassadors, Timothy Gould wrote:>
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I think you’ll find that there has always been variation in the depth of the
texture on slope bricks, it’s just that the variation is now greater. I’ll
hazard a guess and say that TLG are using their molds for longer to save
money.
If you choose not to buy new sets then that’s obviously your choice but to
act as though smoother slopes is some sort of betrayal is a little worrying.
As for “they will not match all the hundreds of other textured slope bricks
in my collection” well I’m just going to say that you’re showing a distinct
lack of imagination.
Tim
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Hey Tim,
I’ve always noted the change in the style of roof bricks, from the circular
pattern to the rougher bumpy style to the hopefully current
more-smooth-but-still-bumpy pattern. That never bothered me.
However, if it’s a fact that TLG is so desperate to save money that they’re
using molds beyond their ability to produce identical parts, then it seems
something is indeed rotten in Denmark! (Forgive me, William, I could not
resist!)
Did I say betrayal?
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“Sometimes it feels like TLG is deliberately trying to break with the older
fanbase” is close enough for me.
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I don’t think I did. Granted, it sometimes feels that
way given all the other changes recently, but even I would not personally
ascribe that much emotion to the situation.
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Excellent news.
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It saddens me more than a little, but betrayal? No.
You don’t know me, so why would you worry about
my state of mind?
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I worry because by virtue of sharing a hobby there may be some perception of
crossover between your views and mine. If you were a Meccano hobbyist I wouldn’t
be worried in the slightest.
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Furthermore, given that assessment on your part, it’s very
petty to indulge in flinging inflammatory and needless insults after you’ve
just finished accusing me of mental instability.
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Well played but I wouldn’t say that being finding some behaviour ‘worrying’ is
neccessarily an implication of an unstable mind.
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As for your last statement, well, I’m just going to say that I think you’re
showing a distinct overabundance of (fill in the expletive noun).
Dave S.
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Perhaps you can elaborate on this?
I do sincerely and absolutely believe that someone who can’t find a use for what
could be considered a new type of piece is being unimaginitive. That’s an
opinion which is highly unlikely to change. Maybe I shouldn’t be quite so blunt
about that feeling but I am sick to death of all the stupid moaning about
various things that Lego has ‘done’ to fans, particularly when such changes can
be used to positive effect in MOCs.
Yours,
Tim
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I do sincerely and absolutely believe that someone who can’t find a use for
what could be considered a new type of piece is being unimaginitive. That’s
an opinion which is highly unlikely to change. Maybe I shouldn’t be quite so
blunt about that feeling but I am sick to death of all the stupid moaning
about various things that Lego has ‘done’ to fans, particularly when such
changes can be used to positive effect in MOCs.
Yours,
Tim
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Yeah, there’s been a lot of complaining lately, and I’m certainly guilty on
that score. However, I believe most of the major complaints are all
justifiable, i.e. the color change, click-hinge replacement of fingered hinges,
Bionicle parts in System sets, and IR Trains without electrical track just to
name a few. Those who can recall when TLG’s product was in its prime will
always have difficulty with the current offerings. It’s hard to let go of fond
memories of Forestmen, Futuron, and Main Street.
It is sad to me that in order to survive, TLG has been forced and/or decided to
morph their product into something that hardly resembles what came before.
What’s most unfortunate is that all these things have so greatly polarized the
fanbase to the point where it seems that there will always be two, fiercely
divided camps. One side who decries the current state of things, the other
decries the other side for complaining, rinse & repeat.
I’m happy for you that you are trying to take a positive attitude towards the
situation. However, perhaps that should include not using my initial post as an
excuse to vent your own frustrations. You could have just said to yourself;
“Dude, get a life!” and move on the next ng! :-)
Dave S.
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Simmons wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I do sincerely and absolutely believe that someone who can’t find a use for
what could be considered a new type of piece is being unimaginitive. That’s
an opinion which is highly unlikely to change. Maybe I shouldn’t be quite so
blunt about that feeling but I am sick to death of all the stupid moaning
about various things that Lego has ‘done’ to fans, particularly when such
changes can be used to positive effect in MOCs.
Yours,
Tim
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Yeah, there’s been a lot of complaining lately, and I’m certainly guilty on
that score. However, I believe most of the major complaints are all
justifiable, i.e. the color change, click-hinge replacement of fingered
hinges, Bionicle parts in System sets, and IR Trains without electrical track
just to name a few. Those who can recall when TLG’s product was in its prime
will always have difficulty with the current offerings. It’s hard to let go
of fond memories of Forestmen, Futuron, and Main Street.
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Agreed but also remember we now have Skeletons, Star Wars and Market Street. And
I like seeing Bionicle parts in system sets so long as they go (which I agree
can be hit and miss).
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It is sad to me that in order to survive, TLG has been forced and/or decided
to morph their product into something that hardly resembles what came before.
What’s most unfortunate is that all these things have so greatly polarized
the fanbase to the point where it seems that there will always be two,
fiercely divided camps. One side who decries the current state of things,
the other decries the other side for complaining, rinse & repeat.
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Well put. I just wish both camps would spend more time building etc. than
complaining.
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I’m happy for you that you are trying to take a positive attitude towards the
situation
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Too many good new parts and colours for me to take any other position. The 9V
trains issue (if they are gone) is the only one that really bugs me.
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However, perhaps that should include not using my initial post as
an excuse to vent your own frustrations. You could have just said to
yourself; “Dude, get a life!” and move on the next ng! :-)
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At the least I should have been more polite about it so I’m sorry about that.
Tim
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Simmons wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I do sincerely and absolutely believe that someone who can’t find a use for
what could be considered a new type of piece is being unimaginitive. That’s
an opinion which is highly unlikely to change. Maybe I shouldn’t be quite
so blunt about that feeling but I am sick to death of all the stupid
moaning about various things that Lego has ‘done’ to fans, particularly
when such changes can be used to positive effect in MOCs.
Yours,
Tim
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Yeah, there’s been a lot of complaining lately, and I’m certainly guilty
on that score. However, I believe most of the major complaints are all
justifiable, i.e. the color change, click-hinge replacement of fingered
hinges, Bionicle parts in System sets, and IR Trains without electrical
track just to name a few. Those who can recall when TLG’s product was in
its prime will always have difficulty with the current offerings. It’s hard
to let go of fond memories of Forestmen, Futuron, and Main Street.
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Agreed but also remember we now have Skeletons, Star Wars and Market Street.
And I like seeing Bionicle parts in system sets so long as they go (which I
agree can be hit and miss).
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Heh, we’ll have to agree to disagree there. I just don’t think they mesh with
the System at all.
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It is sad to me that in order to survive, TLG has been forced and/or decided
to morph their product into something that hardly resembles what came
before. What’s most unfortunate is that all these things have so greatly
polarized the fanbase to the point where it seems that there will always be
two, fiercely divided camps. One side who decries the current state of
things, the other decries the other side for complaining, rinse & repeat.
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Well put. I just wish both camps would spend more time building etc. than
complaining.
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Wouldn’t it be nice? I think one of the reasons that there’s so little traffic
on Lugnet these days is due in part to the fact that a significant percentage of
people (like me) don’t have much positive to say. I mean, I still love building
and I always will, but I’m just not optimistic about the future right now. As
such, my participation in the forums has taken a real nosedive because I don’t
want to be seen as yet another broken record.
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I’m happy for you that you are trying to take a positive attitude towards
the situation
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Too many good new parts and colours for me to take any other position. The 9V
trains issue (if they are gone) is the only one that really bugs me.
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I agree on the new parts, particularly the 1x1 slope. By far, the best new
piece in years. Colors, well, that particular equine corpse has been
flattened enough to read newsprint through! I’m not a huge Train fan myself,
but I can definitely how those folks would be hopping mad!
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However, perhaps that should include not using my initial post as
an excuse to vent your own frustrations. You could have just said to
yourself; “Dude, get a life!” and move on the next ng! :-)
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At the least I should have been more polite about it so I’m sorry about that.
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Apology gratefully accepted! I suspect it will be quite some time before the
negativity over all the recent changes subsides in the form of ng static, but if
you and I can reach an understanding, then there is indeed hope!
Dave S.
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