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Re: The Future of Trains
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.robotics.nxt
Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:29:27 GMT
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Stalled, the train motor pulls 950 mA, while the stall current of the NXT motor
is a whopping 2 Amps. So a single NXT motor output should easily handle a

Some precisions here:
- NXT stall current is 2A but only for a short time: internal thermal protection
will trip at a current much lower than that (exact value depends on temperature
and overload duration). A practical value is about 1A
- NXT motor driver itself limits the current around 1A too.

Philo


Subject: 
Re: The Future of Trains
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.robotics.nxt
Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:17:58 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Philippe Hurbain wrote:

A practical value is about 1A - NXT motor driver itself
limits the current around 1A too.

Ah, thank you - so running two stalled train motors would exceed the NXT output,
but running one train motor up to a stall conditions should be fine. Out of
curiosity, along with the output limitations on the NXT (1 A) and RCX (500 mA),
does anyone have the output limitations (voltage and current) on the train
transformer?

--
Brian Davis


Subject: 
Re: The Future of Trains
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego, lugnet.robotics.nxt, lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:11:26 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Brian Davis wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Philippe Hurbain wrote:

A practical value is about 1A - NXT motor driver itself
limits the current around 1A too.

Ah, thank you - so running two stalled train motors would exceed the NXT output,
but running one train motor up to a stall conditions should be fine. Out of
curiosity, along with the output limitations on the NXT (1 A) and RCX (500 mA),
does anyone have the output limitations (voltage and current) on the train
transformer?

The linear regulator inside is a 1.5A version if I remember well, but I may be
wrong. Cross posted to lugnet.trains trying to get train guru opinion...

Philo


Subject: 
Re: The Future of Trains
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego, lugnet.robotics.nxt, lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:41:46 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Philippe Hurbain wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Brian Davis wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Philippe Hurbain wrote:

A practical value is about 1A - NXT motor driver itself
limits the current around 1A too.

Ah, thank you - so running two stalled train motors would exceed the NXT output,
but running one train motor up to a stall conditions should be fine. Out of
curiosity, along with the output limitations on the NXT (1 A) and RCX (500 mA),
does anyone have the output limitations (voltage and current) on the train
transformer?

The linear regulator inside is a 1.5A version if I remember well, but I may be
wrong. Cross posted to lugnet.trains trying to get train guru opinion...

Philo

At BayLTC we usually run four train motors on one loop using stock Controller
with a 1.2 amp wall wart.

Bruce


Subject: 
Re: The Future of Trains
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego, lugnet.robotics.nxt, lugnet.trains
Date: 
Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:03:39 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Philippe Hurbain wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Brian Davis wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Philippe Hurbain wrote:

A practical value is about 1A - NXT motor driver itself
limits the current around 1A too.

Ah, thank you - so running two stalled train motors would exceed the NXT output,
but running one train motor up to a stall conditions should be fine. Out of
curiosity, along with the output limitations on the NXT (1 A) and RCX (500 mA),
does anyone have the output limitations (voltage and current) on the train
transformer?

The linear regulator inside is a 1.5A version if I remember well, but I may be
wrong. Cross posted to lugnet.trains trying to get train guru opinion...

The Australian LEGO wall wart is marked 10V @ 7VA on the secondary. I don't
recall all the stuff I learnt about the relationship between VA and W, but that
seems to me to indicate about 0.7A. I believe this generally reduces as load
increases, but again I don't recall all that stuff... Philo?

M>ltc uses a home-built 3A transformer for our displays.

ROSCO


Subject: 
Re: The Future of Trains
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego, lugnet.robotics.nxt, lugnet.trains
Date: 
Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:27:19 GMT
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The Australian LEGO wall wart is marked 10V @ 7VA on the secondary. I don't
recall all the stuff I learnt about the relationship between VA and W, but that
seems to me to indicate about 0.7A. I believe this generally reduces as load
increases, but again I don't recall all that stuff... Philo?

You are right, the main limitation probably comes from wall wart... You are
essentially right for the 0.7A current (though it is not hard limit, rather a
safety one).

Philo


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