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Re: Problems with Brickshelf?
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Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:49:05 GMT
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I’m not sure where to post this in this thread, so I’m just going to throw it out there. If anyone here decides they want to take action (as I said, I’m not sure what) to build or rebuild the sort of service we had with BS, I want to make one suggestion: Use people’s real names.

In my experience Lugnet is one of the few web-services I’ve seen that does this. But I prefer it! Some reasons why:

One concern voiced in this thread is that the work of AFOLs who have passed on or otherwise left the hobby was accessible only through sites like BS. But even with such sites, it is almost impossible for some viewers to know which AFOL is tied to which username. (Okay, with me it’s a tad easier since my typical user name is the same nickname I’ve had since before there was an internet, but you get my point.) Even if BS was running, does everyone know the nicknames and usernames of each other well enough that if a favorite builder went away that we’d be able to search for his MOCs? I know I couldn’t. ...Except here on Lugnet, I can search for the name I know them by - the same name I might have met them as at a convention or train show or gaming event.

Further, the more sites each of us joins - Flickr, BS, BL, LUG boards, Blogs, Lego.com, etc. etc. - the more variations of fake usernames we’re likely to have. E.g., I try to use Hendo when I join a new site, but sometimes it’s in use so I have to add a digit (which I hate because there should be only one!) or I go with a variation like Hendotron. But even so, it’s all still a variation of my real name. If we use real names only, it’s easier to find each other.

And finally, I’ve always felt this feature strengthens the community. Somehow, responsding to a Lugnet post has always been more “real” to me. I like knowing I’m talking to Joseph Smith of Queensland Australia who is married with a daughter, as opposed to internet chatting with jqueen102. This difference here at Lugnet has helped us get to know each other better, and connect more quickly if/when we meet in person. ...And isn’t connecting what this hobby is all about? :)

So, despite that I posted earlier that my hands feel tied when it comes to helping on the BS issue, I nonetheless put forth this idea to whomever might ever try to offer a similar service to BS - please consider using full, real names as Lugnet has.

Thanks!

-Hendo

   
         
   
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Re: Problems with Brickshelf?
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Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:47:12 GMT
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In lugnet.general, John P. Henderson wrote:
   I’m not sure where to post this in this thread, so I’m just going to throw it out there. If anyone here decides they want to take action (as I said, I’m not sure what) to build or rebuild the sort of service we had with BS, I want to make one suggestion: Use people’s real names.

Brickshelf used to use real names but there have been some laws passed in the past few years that make that problematic. For one thing, there are laws against collecting certain information online from people under the age of 13. The idea is to make it harder for pedophiles to track down their prey. Kevin took all the real names down one day a few years ago (without much fanfare, they just disappeared). You used to be able to browse users by their real names, but then after that you could only use the login name.

   
         
   
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Re: Problems with Brickshelf?
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In lugnet.general, William R. Ward wrote:
   In lugnet.general, John P. Henderson wrote:
   I’m not sure where to post this in this thread, so I’m just going to throw it out there. If anyone here decides they want to take action (as I said, I’m not sure what) to build or rebuild the sort of service we had with BS, I want to make one suggestion: Use people’s real names.

Brickshelf used to use real names but there have been some laws passed in the past few years that make that problematic. For one thing, there are laws against collecting certain information online from people under the age of 13. The idea is to make it harder for pedophiles to track down their prey. Kevin took all the real names down one day a few years ago (without much fanfare, they just disappeared). You used to be able to browse users by their real names, but then after that you could only use the login name.

You’re referring to the US Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA). (There are similar things in many other countries, but as I understand COPPA is one of the most stringent, so it’s what many people deal with as a default)

Basically COPPA says that you can’t ask for and/or accept personally identifiable information from anyone 13 or younger without parental consent. You can have them sign up all day long, but you can’t ask them for things like name, address, phone, email, hometown, etc., but you have to have parental consent. (Which is fairly difficult according to COPPA’s rules)

That doesn’t preclude a site from taking “reasonable efforts” to ensure that a new user is older than 13 then asking them for all kinds of personal data. Those reasonable efforts just have to meet certain criteria (like not actively encouraging a kid to lie ... “You have to be older than 13 to get the really good stuff! Are you older than 13?”)

Jake
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Jake McKee
Private Citizen

 

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