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Subject: 
Re: LEGO sucks!
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 19:04:39 GMT
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Hi,

get me right:
Jake tries his best - I know, but I cannot imagine he is really believing
what he is writing. Then he could not be an AFOL.
For him it must be frustrating. So this was my intention to give him the
hint to look for a new job. No one could bare this load.

Normally I write nice and calm postings, but this evening I understood that
my hobby just end in these days.
This makes me crazy. And it really annoys me - let say hurts me deeply. It's
too late now for constructive criticism.

Then there is a cultural difference. Germans tell what they think. Americans
are always nice. Germans are straight ahead.
If you could read german, then read the the today 1000steine postinga. The
air is hot there!

At the weekend I will bring my bricks up to the loft...

Dirk




"Dirk Meier" <dirk.meier@surfeu.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:HxB097.1A8r@lugnet.com...
Jake,

please, please shut up! Do you believe what you are writing?
We don`t need your way of community development.
I give you a good hint: Look for another job!

We don`t trust in any word from you nor TLC. Tomorrow white will die, then
red, then....

TLC really sucks! German AFOLs are very annoyed!

You are now loosing your most loyal fans.

Dirk


"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:HxAwE3.MI9@lugnet.com...
Many people have asked what colors are currently considered "universal" • or
locked. This means that these colors will almost certainly never be • changed.
Universal colors are colors that we consider to be untouchable for • change.

While the final list of extended "locked" colors has not been finalized • yet, at
minimum, the universal colors will include:

- red
- green
- blue
- yellow
- white
- black
- new light gray
- new dark gray
- new brown

This list will grow from what I understand, as decisions are made • internally in
the next couple of weeks about what colors do should be added to this • list.

But for sure, the colors above are locked, and considered universal. • They're
here for the very long term. Like a good club, once you're on the list, • you're
on the list.

Jake
---
Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Development




Subject: 
Re: LEGO sucks!
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 19:16:10 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Dirk Meier wrote:

get me right:
Jake tries his best - I know, but I cannot imagine he is really believing
what he is writing. Then he could not be an AFOL.
For him it must be frustrating. So this was my intention to give him the
hint to look for a new job. No one could bare this load.

Jake has said many times that he doesn't lie to the AFOL community.

Then there is a cultural difference. Germans tell what they think. Americans
are always nice. Germans are straight ahead.
If you could read german, then read the the today 1000steine postinga. The
air is hot there!

Have you had business dealings with "far east" cultures like the Japanese?  If
you ask them to do something, and they aren't going to do it, they don't tell
you "No" at all, because that simply isn't done in their culture.  You'll get
all sorts of answers that, as a westerner, would lead you to believe that their
answer was really a "Maybe", or perhaps a "Qualified yes".  This can definately
come back to haunt you.

I've also had dealings with Germans and other Europeans.  We had one customer
that we used to call the "Angry Austrian".  He never held anything back and
always told you exactly what he thought.  In reality, his suggestions were
always valid from his point of view, and we always respected them.
Unfortunately, we couldn't always make the changes he wanted in our products.

I know how Jake feels.

At the weekend I will bring my bricks up to the loft...

Do you mean that you will be placing your bricks into storage?  Just curious.  I
think something may have been lost in translation.

Jeff


Subject: 
Re: LEGO sucks!
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 19:32:08 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Dirk Meier wrote:
Jake tries his best - I know, but I cannot imagine he is really believing
what he is writing. Then he could not be an AFOL.
For him it must be frustrating. So this was my intention to give him the
hint to look for a new job. No one could bare this load.

I think Jake is honest with us and passes along any information that is
important to the community, whether good or bad. I'm sure he believes it.

Normally I write nice and calm postings, but this evening I understood that
my hobby just end in these days.
This makes me crazy. And it really annoys me - let say hurts me deeply. It's
too late now for constructive criticism.

Well, let's put this into perspective. LEGO is a hobby to most of us. We usually
can't make a living with it, so it's just a fun hobby. If changes in LEGO's
products make you this nuts, then you're taking it too seriously.

I think we should all be very grateful that Jake's job exists and that he
communicates with us as he does. As a lot of us have observed, companies don't
usually interact with their fans to the extent LEGO does.

Jake has done a terrific job and I applaud him.

Then there is a cultural difference. Germans tell what they think. Americans
are always nice. Germans are straight ahead.
If you could read german, then read the the today 1000steine postinga. The
air is hot there!

Despite what culture you belong to, there is a common sense of courtesy and
gratitude. Everyone should feel that. And there are definitely better and more
intelligent ways of expressing yourself than stating "LEGO Sucks".

-TJ


Subject: 
Re: LEGO sucks!
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 19:54:37 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Dirk Meier wrote:

At the weekend I will bring my bricks up to the loft...

It's unfortunate that you are unable to adapt your hobby to these changes.

I've been eyeing some of my mocs that I actually want to change over to the new
colors to improve them. The added bonus is this will free up some of the older
colors for future projects that they are better suited for. I'm just waiting for
the prices on Bricklink to come down - right now the new colors cost more than
the old!

Spencer


Subject: 
Re: LEGO sucks!
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 20:58:25 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Findley wrote:
Have you had business dealings with "far east" cultures like the Japanese?
If you ask them to do something, and they aren't going to do it, they don't
tell you "No" at all, because that simply isn't done in their culture.
You'll get all sorts of answers that, as a westerner, would lead you to
believe that their answer was really a "Maybe", or perhaps a "Qualified
yes".  This can definately come back to haunt you.

A friend of mine is in a teaching program in Japan, and he's been commenting on
some of the more odd instances of culture shock.  One of the most interesting
ones was finding out that some of the local residents will just cut in line
whenever they please because there's little risk of anyone objecting.  And if
they do object, the closest equivalent to "excuse me" basically involves
admitting that the whole situation is, in fact, _your_ fault for having the
audacity to impose yourself upon the person who just cut in line, and asking if
he would be at all gracious enough to forgive you for doing so.  It's even more
difficult to wade through this process when you're a Westerner who barely has a
grasp of the culture to begin with.


Subject: 
Re: LEGO sucks!
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 22:20:22 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Dirk Meier wrote:
   Hi,

Then there is a cultural difference. Germans tell what they think. Americans are always nice. Germans are straight ahead. If you could read german, then read the the today 1000steine postinga. The air is hot there!

Schnipp
  
   TLC really sucks! German AFOLs are very annoyed!

You are now loosing your most loyal fans.

Hey, speak for yourself !

I can say what I think and do it in a civilized manner (at least I hope my english is good enough ;) I am also not annoyed. I do like the new colors for my space-junk-mocs but I’ll also miss the old grey.

And a big Thank You to Jake for the update. I appreciate the effort TLC puts into the fan communities.

Who cares for a color change, when you can build a Millenium Falcon like this:



I prefer people with imagination like this or humor like that:



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