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Subject: 
Re: Color Change - Final Update
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 03:20:52 GMT
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Jake wrote:
I know this change is not welcomed, and was implemented poorly (see apology
above). But since we can't turn back time, and since the change is here to >stay,
let's focus on the best way to ease into the transition.

*Is that by "locking" certain key parts in old colors for the forseeable >future?
*Is that by focusing on getting wider access to the new colors?
*Is it by some other concept?

I'm honestly looking for your feedback on this issue. I'm asking what YOU >think
is the best way to ease into the switch over.


Personally, for myself, the only problem the new colors represent is storage. I
cannot possibly mix them in with the old colors. What I don't like is how the
new Strata 1000pc tub comes with the stupid lime, orange and light blue colors.
It means less pieces in the core colours.
I think TLG should also make the limited edion tub of old grey and dark grey
more available than just having it in Billund (North America perhaps?).
But as a Town collector mainly, I have a few concerns.
1) Why make the road plates 6 wide when 90% of the cars are only 4 studs
wide? Isn't that brand new ambulance in the Spiderman 2 set only 4 wide? YES
2) Dislike the minifigure's head color change. Keep it yellow. If I want realism
I'll buy McFarlane toys.
3) And please leave the train tracks alone

I much appreciate the time you take to let us know what's up with Lego

--member 1893

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Color Change - Final Update
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 04:38:18 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Daniel Warren wrote:
1) Why make the road plates 6 wide when 90% of the cars are only 4 studs
wide? Isn't that brand new ambulance in the Spiderman 2 set only 4 wide? YES

If the roads are only 4-wide, the cars will clip each other as they drive past
in opposing lanes (ask Steve Ringe how much of a problem that is).  Also, not
everyone builds 4-wide cars.  The only one I've ever built uses the 5-wide twin
bucket-seat piece, the "trunk" (such as it is) is 6-wide, and the rear tires are
slightly over 7-wide.  4-wide lanes just aren't going to work for my little
roadster.

2) Dislike the minifigure's head color change. Keep it yellow.

Okay, _this_ I've actually heard a believable explanation for.  At Toy Fair, I
was told that the reason for shifting to skin-tones in the licensed sets is
because the major retail chains have been leaning on TLC to do just that.  If
the retail chains aren't happy, they'll stop ordering as much product, and that
will have a severely negative impact on TLC's bottom line.  It doesn't matter if
the consumers care one way or the other if the big retail chains make their
orders based on a perception that they do.

If I want realism I'll buy McFarlane toys.

Accounts of their realism are greatly exaggerated.  They've got detail out the
wazoo, but very little of it is realistic, and the paint jobs are often
hideously blotchy.

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Color Change - Final Update
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 16:10:05 GMT
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2) Dislike the minifigure's head color change. Keep it yellow.

Okay, _this_ I've actually heard a believable explanation for.  At Toy Fair, I
was told that the reason for shifting to skin-tones in the licensed sets is
because the major retail chains have been leaning on TLC to do just that.  If
the retail chains aren't happy, they'll stop ordering as much product, and that
will have a severely negative impact on TLC's bottom line.  It doesn't matter if
the consumers care one way or the other if the big retail chains make their
orders based on a perception that they do.

So what you're saying is only on sets like Spiderman, Harry Potter, Star Wars
and the new Ferarri ones will this be in affect? Wasn't aware of the above,
thanks.


If I want realism I'll buy McFarlane toys.

Accounts of their realism are greatly exaggerated.  They've got detail out the
wazoo, but very little of it is realistic, and the paint jobs are often
hideously blotchy.

And sometimes they even use the same sculpt on multiple figures (Lalime of NHL
series 8 is exactly the same as Thibault of series 3)

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Color Change - Final Update
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lugnet.general, lugnet.lego
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 17:15:18 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Daniel Warren wrote:
So what you're saying is only on sets like Spiderman, Harry Potter, Star Wars
and the new Ferarri ones will this be in affect? Wasn't aware of the above,
thanks.

That's what we've been told.  Licensed characters (SW, HP, Spiderman, Dora,
etc.) and real-world personalities (Ferrari drivers).  Of course, with how badly
the NBA minifig 3-pack sold, you have to wonder why the retail chains would
still be pushing for this...

And sometimes they even use the same sculpt on multiple figures (Lalime of
NHL series 8 is exactly the same as Thibault of series 3)

That's a long-standing trick of the toy industry.  Marvel-based action-figures
are infamous for this, with many less popular characters only having seen
production because they didn't require any new sculpting.  Even playsets end up
being reused.  The Ewok Village ended up seeing new life with the Robin Hood:
Prince of Thieves toy line, and a rock-flinging siege weapon actually went from
Kenner Star Wars to Dragonheart back to Hasbro Star Wars.  And, I mean, geez,
look at how many times TLC has retreaded that tired old 2x4 brick.  ;P

 

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