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Re: I Just Don't See It
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Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:47:59 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
So I've tried to forget about the color change and focus on sorting my LEGO and
building some new models.  While sorting, I've been keeping in the back of my
mind what many have said: that LEGO has always had color variances in the
pieces.

Well after parting out a couple dozen sets, I've gotta say that I just don't see
this.

I have to agree.  If you are looking at new brick from around the same time
period, then I think LEGO tends to have a very high color consistency.

Sure, baseplates have always come in a couple shades of green, and I've
even noticed that some of my tan baseplates are very slightly darker than
others.  But with regular brick I only found one piece that was a noticeably
different hue than the rest, and it turned out to be a Tyco brick that somehow
got mixed into a bin of loose brick.  (Not counting bricks in the new 2004
colors, of course, which are just different enough that you only notice the
difference AFTER you drop them into a bin of supposedly same-color pieces.)

Now granted, the vast majority of my LEGO collection was purchased new in the
last five years, and has never been abused with direct sunlight.  But I have a
small amount of brick that is at least 20 years old, and the colors are still
the same.

So what are you guys talking about?


I can't speak for anyone else, but something to came to mind when looking at the
discussion is that LEGO bricks do tend to change color when exposed to various
elements.  I have a lot of yellowed white brick from when I kept my Rebel
Blockade Runner out on my desk at my office.  There it was exposed to florescent
light, which I now understand is a no-no for LEGO.  (It really looked like it
got a tan, too, as the underside was still nice and bright!)

Also, in my collection there are a lot of well used bricks.  I often buy used
brick from bricklink, and I also have a large collection from my childhood.
These pieces are in good shape, except for the color.  Some of my red has an
orange tint to it, and some grey has yellowed a bit as well.  I even had to
bleach some of my bricks, as I inherited my brothers' mold filled boxes of lego.
(This didn't change the color nearly as much as florescent light!) However, I do
have to say that these color variations appear to be slighter than the official
color change.  I don't really know, thoa, since I haven't bought any sets with
the new color, yet.

- Chris.

-Alfred

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: I Just Don't See It
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:00:37 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Alfred Speredelozzi wrote:
   However, I do have to say that these color variations appear to be slighter than the official color change. I don’t really know, thoa, since I haven’t bought any sets with the new color, yet.

-Alfred

I bought a 2004 mini Star Wars set at the Imagination Center at the Mall of America last week, just to check out these new colors.

There is a big different between the ‘classic’ dark grey and the new dark blue-grey, and a smaller difference between the ‘classic’ grey and the new grey. Just to test it, I took about 30 pieces of the old colors, put one of the new colors into the pile and shook them up. I could pick out the new pieces basically instantly.

The GMLTC will be sorting the new dark blue-grey (my term for it, since it definitely looks blue) separately from our supply of the old dark grey. The light grey I don’t know what we’re going to do, since it’s closer to the old color it might end up sorted into the same bins.

Once you see these new colors next to your existing colors, you WILL see the difference!

JohnG, GMLTC

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: I Just Don't See It
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:26:29 GMT
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In lugnet.general, John Gerlach wrote:
I bought a 2004 mini Star Wars set at the Imagination Center at the Mall of
America last week, just to check out these new colors.

Ditto here last week (well, ok, not at the Mall of America). I'm on the 'Xmas'
rule right now, which states quite clearly that I'm not to buy any Lego for
myself until AFTER Xmas, but this was obviously an exception, since I NEED to
see the new colors :)

There is a big different between the 'classic' dark grey and the new dark
blue-grey, and a smaller difference between the 'classic' grey and the new
grey.

Yeah, the new grey isn't all that bad. I think I even like the new grey better
than the old one. Not that I think they *should* have made the change, given its
subtlety, unless there really were other factors behind the scenes besides pure
looks... But I'm not up in arms about it. Anyway, I don't think I'll mind mixing
the new greys in with the old. It's significantly less of a variation than on
some of my older, yellower greys anyway.

The new dark grey? Much bigger difference. I prefer the old dark grey, I think--
this new one really does seem blueish, especially when next to a 'classic' dark
grey. Makes me think a nice gradient now exists from classic dark grey to the
new dark grey to sand blue to regular blue, though I haven't tested it out. I'm
rather sad to see it go, since we were finally starting to get a nice mix of
dark grey slopes and arches...

Just to test it, I took about 30 pieces of the old colors, put one of
the new colors into the pile and shook them up.  I could pick out the new
pieces basically instantly.

Oh yeah. No contest. Especially with the dark grey. It's oddly similar to going
through a pile of Lego mixed with MegaBloks-- you can spot the MegaBloks a mile
away, just because it's an "unfamiliar" color or something.

The GMLTC will be sorting the new dark blue-grey (my term for it, since it
definitely looks blue) separately from our supply of the old dark grey.  The
light grey I don't know what we're going to do, since it's closer to the old
color it might end up sorted into the same bins.

Heh, probably exactly what I'll be doing :)

Once you see these new colors next to your existing colors, you [WILL] see
the difference!

Heck, even just by themselves you might be able to tell! :) [at least with the
new dark grey]

DaveE

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: I Just Don't See It
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Date: 
Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:25:50 GMT
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Alfred Speredelozzi wrote:
In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:

So I've tried to forget about the color change and focus on sorting my LEGO and
building some new models.  While sorting, I've been keeping in the back of my
mind what many have said: that LEGO has always had color variances in the
pieces.

Well after parting out a couple dozen sets, I've gotta say that I just don't see
this.


I have to agree.  If you are looking at new brick from around the same time
period, then I think LEGO tends to have a very high color consistency.


Sure, baseplates have always come in a couple shades of green, and I've
even noticed that some of my tan baseplates are very slightly darker than
others.  But with regular brick I only found one piece that was a noticeably
different hue than the rest, and it turned out to be a Tyco brick that somehow
got mixed into a bin of loose brick.  (Not counting bricks in the new 2004
colors, of course, which are just different enough that you only notice the
difference AFTER you drop them into a bin of supposedly same-color pieces.)

Now granted, the vast majority of my LEGO collection was purchased new in the
last five years, and has never been abused with direct sunlight.  But I have a
small amount of brick that is at least 20 years old, and the colors are still
the same.

So what are you guys talking about?



I can't speak for anyone else, but something to came to mind when looking at the
discussion is that LEGO bricks do tend to change color when exposed to various
elements.  I have a lot of yellowed white brick from when I kept my Rebel
Blockade Runner out on my desk at my office.  There it was exposed to florescent
light, which I now understand is a no-no for LEGO.  (It really looked like it
got a tan, too, as the underside was still nice and bright!)

Also, in my collection there are a lot of well used bricks.  I often buy used
brick from bricklink, and I also have a large collection from my childhood.
These pieces are in good shape, except for the color.  Some of my red has an
orange tint to it, and some grey has yellowed a bit as well.  I even had to
bleach some of my bricks, as I inherited my brothers' mold filled boxes of lego.
(This didn't change the color nearly as much as florescent light!) However, I do
have to say that these color variations appear to be slighter than the official
color change.  I don't really know, thoa, since I haven't bought any sets with
the new color, yet.


- Chris.


-Alfred

I have yellows (produced within the same year) that are not the same
shade. When the bricks are snapped together the color shift becomes
obvious to me but not to my wife... although, I don't think she even
looks when I ask :) I just recieved some LEGO where the blue 1x4x1 panel
doesn't match any of the other blue bricks. So, I think there has been
some variation in the color of LEGO bricks not a lot, but some.

As for discoloration, I haven't figured that one out yet. The latest
puzzle was when I got my Twin Tank Transport out to build it. All of the
pieces were stored in the same Ziploc bag in the original box that was
place in a large cardboard box. One, and only one, white ldraw part
number 2463 was somewhat yet uniformly beiged. All of the other white
parts were still nice and uniformly white. A big part of me wants to
design an experiment to test what environmental factors play a roll in
the discolorization of LEGO, another part of me thinks that there is no
way that I could control of the factors that cause discoloration.

Chris

 

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