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Re: possible translations (was "Re: New pictures of my Black Falcons")
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Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:56:22 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
On the other hand, "-mancy" comes from the Greek "mantis" or prophet*, • <snip>
* - which, interestingly enough, is also related to "mania" or madness.
Tells you something about what the Greeks thought of prophets...

LOL... I love the Greek mythologies but the one thing I don't get is:
The citizens all believed in the prophets, so why the heck did they think they
could change what the prophets said would happen?! (e.g. Titan and Zues,
Oedipus and his Father, and zillions of others :-)

Hubris? 8)

The belief that by knowing the future they will be able to change it?

Actually, it's kind of interesting to think that, for example, the whole
Oedipus thing happened *because* his father knew of the prophecy and
reacted the way he did.  If he hadn't gotten rid of Oedipus in the way he
did then the whole mess never would have happened...so maybe the real
message is "Don't Ask!"


J

   
         
   
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Re: possible translations (was "Re: New pictures of my Black Falcons")
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Date: 
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:57:43 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
On the other hand, "-mancy" comes from the Greek "mantis" or prophet*, • <snip>
* - which, interestingly enough, is also related to "mania" or madness.
Tells you something about what the Greeks thought of prophets...

LOL... I love the Greek mythologies but the one thing I don't get is:
The citizens all believed in the prophets, so why the heck did they think
they
could change what the prophets said would happen?! (e.g. Titan and Zues,
Oedipus and his Father, and zillions of others :-)

Hubris? 8)

The belief that by knowing the future they will be able to change it?

Well, one way or another, they were guillible and stupid <grin, duck, run from
lightning bolts>...

Actually, it's kind of interesting to think that, for example, the whole
Oedipus thing happened *because* his father knew of the prophecy and
reacted the way he did.  If he hadn't gotten rid of Oedipus in the way he
did then the whole mess never would have happened...so maybe the real
message is "Don't Ask!"

Or maybe the message is "it's gonna happen one way or another, so don't try
and interfere with Fate". Not that I believe in that.

-Shiri

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: possible translations (was "Re: New pictures of my Black Falcons")
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lugnet.castle
Date: 
Thu, 6 Apr 2000 04:07:48 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
Actually, it's kind of interesting to think that, for example, the whole
Oedipus thing happened *because* his father knew of the prophecy and
reacted the way he did.  If he hadn't gotten rid of Oedipus in the way he
did then the whole mess never would have happened...so maybe the real
message is "Don't Ask!"

Or maybe the message is "it's gonna happen one way or another, so don't try
and interfere with Fate". Not that I believe in that.

Its an eternal question:  "By knowing the future, will I be able to change it,
or in knowing the future, will I cause it to happen?"  Its interesting to
realise that the only way to know which one is true is to wait for it the
future to arrive.  :)

Jeff

 

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