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In lugnet.castle, David Ishak wrote:
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Hi all,
I know this may be a change of topic to what is most popular at the
moment(colour changes and new castle sets), but I just had a question to ask
for all.
What do most AFOLs use as an underlay when raising a model? (landscaping,
mountains, cliffs, etc). 2x4 standard bricks, Duplo bricks???
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I’ve done several different methods; nearly everything I build these days seems
to start with some buildup inside or underneath...
Methods I’ve used:
4x4 columns with regular baseplate on top.
This works quite well for landscape, although the baseplates can get a bit
wobbly. I put a column at each corner (where 4 baseplates meet) and a larger
8x8 column in the middle of each baseplate helps keep them from being too bendy.
I don’t tend to use this method much any more, unless I’m trying to raise a
really large area (dozens of baseplates worth).
GMLTC lattice
This is an incredably sturdy lattice that unfortunately consumes a fair volume
of 2x2 and 2x4 bricks. However it’s sturdy enough to stand on, and is the
easiest to hook solidly into a hillside or other sculpted terrain.
Method 2x2 pillars with 2x4’s tying them together, and 2x4’s on top to make the
solid surface. 2x2 pillars shouldn’t be more than 6 or maybe 7 bricks high
(that’s experience talking...), but you can make it several layers high. GMLTC
modules are 25 bricks high, which is I think 4 layers.
Picture(courtesy of John Gerlach):
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=18100
Superbricks
This is what I’ve started to use most of the time. 4x4 pillars of brick with
the big 12x24 superbricks over top. Very stable, Very low on brick usage. Can
have a lot of weight sitting on it. I haven’t tried standing on it, but I can
lean on it with a lot of my weight.
Another way to use Superbricks is as removable floor pieces in a multi-level
building. This can take a lot of tile, though.
Pictures
Some examples of things I’ve built which used one or more of these methods
extensively:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=48253
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=72380
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=33678
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=33686
(This last shot has a good view of the back, showing both ‘superbrick held up by
colums’ and GMLTC lattice on top of that)
http://www.nalug.org/2003-Londonderry/castle/index.html
Several pictures of my latest castle here, but I couldn’t find a good one that
showed the buildup really well.
This picture (provided you ignore the minifigs in the foreground) gives a decent
impression:
http://www.nalug.org/2003-Londonderry/castle/castle04.jpg
thanks,
James
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In lugnet.castle, James Brown wrote:
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I’ve done several different methods; nearly everything I build these days
seems to start with some buildup inside or underneath...
Methods I’ve used:
4x4 columns with regular baseplate on top.
This works quite well for landscape, although the baseplates can get a bit
wobbly. I put a column at each corner (where 4 baseplates meet) and a larger
8x8 column in the middle of each baseplate helps keep them from being too
bendy. I don’t tend to use this method much any more, unless I’m trying to
raise a really large area (dozens of baseplates worth).
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This was my first attempt and unfortunately, I failed miserably. I found I had
too much sag in the Base plate between the 8x8 column and the edges. However, I
have used this method in one part of my MOC where the Ground will be raised only
four to five high, saves using too many plates.
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GMLTC lattice
This is an incredably sturdy lattice that unfortunately consumes a fair
volume of 2x2 and 2x4 bricks. However it’s sturdy enough to stand on, and is
the easiest to hook solidly into a hillside or other sculpted terrain.
Method 2x2 pillars with 2x4’s tying them together, and 2x4’s on top to make
the solid surface. 2x2 pillars shouldn’t be more than 6 or maybe 7 bricks
high (that’s experience talking...), but you can make it several layers high.
GMLTC modules are 25 bricks high, which is I think 4 layers.
Picture(courtesy of John Gerlach):
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=18100
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Well this method would have to be the most Ideal method, looking at the weaving,
I cant see how any model sitting above this would be un-steady. But my pockets
unfortunately arent deep enough. Brilliant design work, A lot of effort has been
put into getting the monotonous building prioritised. Well done..........
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Superbricks
This is what I’ve started to use most of the time. 4x4 pillars of brick with
the big 12x24 superbricks over top. Very stable, Very low on brick usage.
Can have a lot of weight sitting on it. I haven’t tried standing on it, but
I can lean on it with a lot of my weight.
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This is a very similar method to what I am about to approach. Super bricks is a
Good name for it. I wont try to explain what Ive done, instead I will work on
getting my Camera up and running and I will take a few pics.
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Another way to use Superbricks is as removable floor pieces in a multi-level
building. This can take a lot of tile, though.
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This also is what I have to take into consideration when I want to build into
the landscaping and still have easy access.
I love how you have built into the Mountain as a real Castle would have been
done in its day. Funny, that I have never seen this before, just when you
thought you have seen it all. Goes to show that Castle building will never
die.............
Thank you James............
Dave
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