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After creating a experimental shop on a 16x16 baseplate I came up with
a few problems and I know some of them have been said befor.
In lugnet.castle, Jeremy Scott writes:
> ----Building Area:
>
> The road is integrated into the shop’s baseplate. The standard road width
> is 8 studs, therefore, there must have a 4 stud deep offset from the front
> of the baseplate to the front of the shop. There must also be a 1 stud
> offset on the back of the shop for an alleyway. Otherwise, there is no side
> offset required. We recommend you include a one stud offset if you would
> rather not have you shop butted against another. The maximum building area
> is 11x16 studs.
I think that the road should be made with 16x32 tan basplates, set
between the shops facing each other. With a required 2 stud offset in the
back for the alleyway, so a figure could use the alleyway. Another 2 stud
offset from the front so that they arn't right on the road with a tan plate
to make a path to the shop. Then you could have an overhang in the back of
1 stud and an overhang in the front of two studs. Doing it this way you get
a little more room because then the max building area without an overhang
would be 12x16 and with overhang it would be 15x16. Where now without the
overhang the max building area is 11x16. This would also solve the problem
of a cart being as wide as the road and would make the road look used.
>
> ----Overhang:
>
> There is a one-stud overhang allowed on the front of the shop. The overhang
> must be based off the main structure, and not have any supports outside of
> the 11x16 stud building area.
>
> ----Shape:
>
> There are no additional requirements as to the vertical size or the shape of
> the shop with the exception that the entry to the shop, (If applicable) must
> be tall enough for a minifigure wearing a helmet to pass through. This is
> generally 5 bricks high. This rule may be nullified if the shop is selling
> dwarf only items.
>
> Additional Configurations:
>
> ----Corner Shop:
>
> A 16x16 or 16x32 baseplate may be used. The building area is 11x12 or
> 11x28. The 4 stud offset must apply to the 2 sides of the shop facing the road.
>
> ----Wide Shop:
>
> A 16x32 baseplate may be used. The building area is 11x32.
Two more ideas, if the work and are alowed. A large corner shop on a
32x32 that is set in corectly and takes up the space of both corner spots.
Or one shop on a 16x32 plate that gose from one rode to the other, it would
have doors at both sides and would cross through and stop the alleyway at
that spot. See below.
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[ ] [ ]
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[ ] = the other shops, ] [ = the alleyway and * = the walls of the
shop described above.
> ----2 Shops B2B:
>
> A 16x32 baseplate may be used. The building area is standard for each shop.
> The two shops are separate and must be separated by a 2 wide alleyway in the
> middle. Each end of the baseplate must have the 4 deep offset for the road.
>
> ----2 Wide Shops B2B:
>
> A 32x32 baseplate may be used. The building areas are each 11x32. The two
> shops are separate and must be separated by a 2 wide alleyway in the middle.
> Each end of the baseplate must have the 4 deep offset for the road.
>
> ----4 shops B2B:
>
> A 32x32 baseplate may be used. The building area is standard for each shop.
> The four shops are separate and must be separated by a 2 wide alleyway in
> the middle. Each end of the baseplate must have the 4 deep offset for the road.
Any ways that is my thoughts on this.
--Kevin W. §
P.S. I do like the idea quite well even if it dose not look like it by
the way I have been suggesting changes.
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In lugnet.castle, Kevin Wanner writes:
> > ----Building Area:
> >
> > The road is integrated into the shop’s baseplate. The standard road width
> > is 8 studs, therefore, there must have a 4 stud deep offset from the front
> > of the baseplate to the front of the shop. There must also be a 1 stud
> > offset on the back of the shop for an alleyway. Otherwise, there is no side
> > offset required. We recommend you include a one stud offset if you would
> > rather not have you shop butted against another. The maximum building area
> > is 11x16 studs.
>
> I think that the road should be made with 16x32 tan basplates, set
> between the shops facing each other. With a required 2 stud offset in the
> back for the alleyway, so a figure could use the alleyway. Another 2 stud
> offset from the front so that they arn't right on the road with a tan plate
> to make a path to the shop. Then you could have an overhang in the back of
> 1 stud and an overhang in the front of two studs. Doing it this way you get
> a little more room because then the max building area without an overhang
> would be 12x16 and with overhang it would be 15x16. Where now without the
> overhang the max building area is 11x16. This would also solve the problem
> of a cart being as wide as the road and would make the road look used.
What size carts are you using? I asumed most people would be using 4-wide
carts, and with two market stalls facing each other the road is 8 studs
wide. With two market stalls back to back the alley is 2 studs wide. Just
wondering if maybe you forgot to double the size of the offsets when you
thought about how wide the road and alley were.
Jason
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In lugnet.castle, Jason Maxwell writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Kevin Wanner writes:
> > > ----Building Area:
> > >
> > > The road is integrated into the shop’s baseplate. The standard road width
> > > is 8 studs, therefore, there must have a 4 stud deep offset from the front
> > > of the baseplate to the front of the shop. There must also be a 1 stud
> > > offset on the back of the shop for an alleyway. Otherwise, there is no side
> > > offset required. We recommend you include a one stud offset if you would
> > > rather not have you shop butted against another. The maximum building area
> > > is 11x16 studs.
> >
> > I think that the road should be made with 16x32 tan basplates, set
> > between the shops facing each other. With a required 2 stud offset in the
> > back for the alleyway, so a figure could use the alleyway. Another 2 stud
> > offset from the front so that they arn't right on the road with a tan plate
> > to make a path to the shop. Then you could have an overhang in the back of
> > 1 stud and an overhang in the front of two studs. Doing it this way you get
> > a little more room because then the max building area without an overhang
> > would be 12x16 and with overhang it would be 15x16. Where now without the
> > overhang the max building area is 11x16. This would also solve the problem
> > of a cart being as wide as the road and would make the road look used.
>
> What size carts are you using?
I have two different size carriages one that is 4 studs wide with out wheels
and so it makes it 6 wide, and the other one is 8 with the wheels.
> I asumed most people would be using 4-wide • If that 4 wide has wheels then the cart is only 2 wide by it self.
> carts, and with two market stalls facing each other the road is 8 studs
> wide. With two market stalls back to back the alley is 2 studs wide.
no I didn't forget to double it but when you get a figure to walk in a 2
stud wide alleyway then great but as far as I know some thing has to be 4
studs wide for a fig to use. That is why I wanted a 2 stud offset in the
back so the alleyway we make can be used by the figs.
> Just
> wondering if maybe you forgot to double the size of the offsets when you
> thought about how wide the road and alley were.
No I know the way it is now the road is 8 wide and the alleyway is 2 wide.
--Kevin W. §
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