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"Ross Crawford" <ross.{mylastname}@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:JvDz9G.FAt@lugnet.com...
> > http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=73590 - OK so why wouldn't it
> > show
> > up in the PT? I'm missing something here, and I'm pretty sure it's not
> > related to my mind.
>
> Only unofficial parts show up in the parts tracker - once they become
> official
> they are moved to the official library, and you can find them here:
> http://www.ldraw.org/Article13.html
>
> The part you're interested, for example, can be downloaded using this
> link:
> http://www.ldraw.org/library/official/parts/73590b.dat
Thanks, Ross. That probably means there's a need for an xref function in
the PT, if some part already exists as an official part, it would be better
than saying it couldn't be found. The fact that it couldn't be found
suggests to novice users that it doesn't exist, which is not the case here.
It'd also be handy for cross-reference purposes.
Or in plain english, regardless of whether it's being re-authored, modified,
etc, the PT should be able to tell people if a part already exists. I
haven't seen a simple and easy way of browsing existing official parts on
LDRAW. LDRAW relies on the file name, and not a graphic image of the part.
Cheers ...
Geoffrey Hyde
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> Thanks, Ross. That probably means there's a need for an xref function in
> the PT, if some part already exists as an official part, it would be better
> than saying it couldn't be found. The fact that it couldn't be found
> suggests to novice users that it doesn't exist, which is not the case here.
> It'd also be handy for cross-reference purposes.
You have a good point here, Geoffrey. Having a central place to find a part,
official or not, would be great.
Philo
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In lugnet.cad.ldd, Geoffrey Hyde wrote:
>
> "Ross Crawford" <ross.{mylastname}@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:JvDz9G.FAt@lugnet.com...
> > > http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=73590 - OK so why wouldn't it
> > > show
> > > up in the PT? I'm missing something here, and I'm pretty sure it's not
> > > related to my mind.
> >
> > Only unofficial parts show up in the parts tracker - once they become
> > official
> > they are moved to the official library, and you can find them here:
> > http://www.ldraw.org/Article13.html
> >
> > The part you're interested, for example, can be downloaded using this
> > link:
> > http://www.ldraw.org/library/official/parts/73590b.dat
>
> Thanks, Ross. That probably means there's a need for an xref function in
> the PT, if some part already exists as an official part, it would be better
> than saying it couldn't be found. The fact that it couldn't be found
> suggests to novice users that it doesn't exist, which is not the case here.
> It'd also be handy for cross-reference purposes.
>
> Or in plain english, regardless of whether it's being re-authored, modified,
> etc, the PT should be able to tell people if a part already exists. I
> haven't seen a simple and easy way of browsing existing official parts on
> LDRAW. LDRAW relies on the file name, and not a graphic image of the part.
A couple of things about this...
I agree it'd be pretty cool for ldraw.org to have a visual catalog of official
parts.
But, if you use peeron.com to search for parts, it's pretty easy to tell if a
part has an official LDraw file or not -- if LDraw includes the part, peeron's
image will be a rendering. Otherwise, the part image will be a photo.
Finally, the "Lookup" box on the PT is more powerful than it seems. It will
search on file numbers, part titles, and (if no unofficial match is found), it
will attempt to cross-reference the search term with official parts.
Steve
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In lugnet.cad.ldd, Steve Bliss wrote:
> Finally, the "Lookup" box on the PT is more powerful than it seems. It will
> search on file numbers, part titles, and (if no unofficial match is found), it
> will attempt to cross-reference the search term with official parts.
It doesn't do that when I type stuff into the Lookup box on the PT. A search
for whip only returns one match, when the official library has 4 files with whip
in the title or keywords. The match that is found has whip in the keywords.
--Travis
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In lugnet.cad.ldd, Travis Cobbs wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.ldd, Steve Bliss wrote:
> > Finally, the "Lookup" box on the PT is more powerful than it seems. It will
> > search on file numbers, part titles, and (if no unofficial match is found), it
> > will attempt to cross-reference the search term with official parts.
>
> It doesn't do that when I type stuff into the Lookup box on the PT. A search
> for whip only returns one match, when the official library has 4 files with whip
> in the title or keywords. The match that is found has whip in the keywords.
I believe that's because searching for "whip" returns a match from the
unofficial parts. Since an unofficial match is made, the lookup doesn't go on
to examine the official parts.
The Lookup was intended as a tool to assist PT users. So it's primarily focused
on searching the unofficial parts. The cross-reference to the official parts is
intended as a help in the case where the primary search has failed.
Steve
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