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Re: Searching for parts
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lugnet.cad.dev
Date: 
Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:01:43 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Lars C. Hassing wrote:

In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss wrote:

[stuff about scoping of files contained within MPD files]

L3P/L3Lab will draw 'some stuff' twice.
The file B.DAT is never loaded, as the subfile B.DAT was loaded
during reading A.MPD.

That's what I assumed.

It doesn't matter whether subfile A.DAT references B.DAT or not.

Does it matter if C.DAT references B.DAT *before* referencing A.MPD?  This
would change the example to:

A.MPD:
0 FILE A.DAT
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 B.DAT
0
0 FILE B.DAT
some stuff
0

B.DAT:
some other stuff
0

C.DAT:
1 16 0 48 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 B.DAT
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 A.MPD
0

An MPD should be regarded as a collection of files which is automatically
unpacked before loading, so the scope is public.

That makes sense, and is simpler to implement.  And could even be useful,
under certain circumstances.

I would have preferred the scope to be private...

For MPD, I don't agree.  But I feel there needs to be a follow-on to MPD,
designed specifically to support submodels within a single model file.  It
should give consideration to issues of scoping and visibility.

Steve

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Searching for parts
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lugnet.cad.dev
Date: 
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:46:10 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dev, Lars C. Hassing wrote:
It doesn't matter whether subfile A.DAT references B.DAT or not.

Does it matter if C.DAT references B.DAT *before* referencing A.MPD?  This
would change the example to:

A.MPD:
0 FILE A.DAT
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 B.DAT
0
0 FILE B.DAT
some stuff
0

B.DAT:
some other stuff
0

C.DAT:
1 16 0 48 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 B.DAT
1 16 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 A.MPD
0

Yes, it does matter. L3P/L3Lab give you a warning
  SKIPPING "a.mpd" Line 4: FILE b.dat already read: 0 FILE B.DAT
and 'some stuff' gets treated as part of file A.DAT.
So here 'some other stuff' and 'some stuff' get drawn.

An MPD should be regarded as a collection of files which is automatically
unpacked before loading, so the scope is public.

That makes sense, and is simpler to implement.  And could even be useful,
under certain circumstances.

I would have preferred the scope to be private...

For MPD, I don't agree.  But I feel there needs to be a follow-on to MPD,
designed specifically to support submodels within a single model file.  It
should give consideration to issues of scoping and visibility.

Right, my concern was the ability to compose a Datsville DAT file with
references to many MPD files submitted by contributors.
It should be OK for two authors to use the same subfile name,
e.g. "roof" in my example: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/?n=4188
/Lars

 

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