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Re: Part Authors: opinions sought on T-Junctions
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Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:47:32 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Travis Cobbs wrote:
   So, what do you as part authors think? Should T-junctions be avoided in order to avoid the rendering errors that they can introduce, or should part authors continue to strive to make parts with the fewest number of polygons possible?

This is a really old issue. I think the previous consensus was that T-Junctions are bad. Look at the bottom of the message for the comments on T-Junctions.

Actually this is such an old issue, I could swear there was an ASCII art illustration of the problem. But I can’t seem to find that anywhere now.

Have fun,

Don

   
         
   
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Re: Part Authors: opinions sought on T-Junctions
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Mon, 5 Mar 2007 00:18:48 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Don Heyse wrote:
   This is a really old issue. I think the previous consensus was that T-Junctions are bad. Look at the bottom of the message for the comments on T-Junctions.

Much as I’d like to agree on this, I don’t think the fact that nobody posted back then disagreeing with my statement really counts as consensus. I pointed out the problem, but didn’t ask for opinions on whether parts should be modeled that way.

Also, it’s kind of obvious that you and I would be biased on this issue. When people complain that LDView or ldglite aren’t working right, all we can do right now is say, “Too bad. There’s nothing I can do to fix it.” If there were an official policy saying that T-junctions are bad, we could say, “The part needs to be updated.”


   Actually this is such an old issue, I could swear there was an ASCII art illustration of the problem. But I can’t seem to find that anywhere now.

That wouldn’t surprise me. Funny how things change.

--Travis

   
         
     
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Re: Part Authors: opinions sought on T-Junctions
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Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:54:13 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Travis Cobbs wrote:
   In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Don Heyse wrote:
   This is a really old issue. I think the previous consensus was that T-Junctions are bad. Look at the bottom of the message for the comments on T-Junctions.

Much as I’d like to agree on this, I don’t think the fact that nobody posted back then disagreeing with my statement really counts as consensus. I pointed out the problem, but didn’t ask for opinions on whether parts should be modeled that way.

Also, it’s kind of obvious that you and I would be biased on this issue. When people complain that LDView or ldglite aren’t working right, all we can do right now is say, “Too bad. There’s nothing I can do to fix it.” If there were an official policy saying that T-junctions are bad, we could say, “The part needs to be updated.”


   Actually this is such an old issue, I could swear there was an ASCII art illustration of the problem. But I can’t seem to find that anywhere now.

That wouldn’t surprise me. Funny how things change.

Heh, I think I found the ASCII art. I coulda sworn it made it into a FAQ somewhere though. Oh well.

Have fun,

Don

   
         
   
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Re: Part Authors: opinions sought on T-Junctions
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Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:57:01 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Travis Cobbs wrote:
   Also, it’s kind of obvious that you and I would be biased on this issue. When people complain that LDView or ldglite aren’t working right, all we can do right now is say, “Too bad. There’s nothing I can do to fix it.” If there were an official policy saying that T-junctions are bad, we could say, “The part needs to be updated.”

T-junctions are a quality issue in part files. I don’t think they should be strictly forbidden (that is, having T-junctions is not a reason to hold a part file from official release). Generally, I wouldn’t even say that a part with T-junctions needs a “(Needs Work)” tag. But I will encourage part authors to avoid T-junctions. It is worth having a few more polygons to avoid the rendering artifacts.

Sometimes, T-junctions can be avoided without any extra polygons -- it’s a matter of knowing better ways to lay out polygons to cover a surface.

Steve

   
         
   
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Re: Part Authors: opinions sought on T-Junctions
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Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:30:49 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Steve Bliss wrote:
   T-junctions are a quality issue in part files. I don’t think they should be strictly forbidden (that is, having T-junctions is not a reason to hold a part file from official release). Generally, I wouldn’t even say that a part with T-junctions needs a “(Needs Work)” tag. But I will encourage part authors to avoid T-junctions. It is worth having a few more polygons to avoid the rendering artifacts.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Any chance a T-junctions FAQ could be created on the parts tracker reference page, and the above could make it into a policy statement in the parts review FAQ? Most of my original post here could be used as the FAQ, but the tone is perhaps too negative if we’re saying that they’re OK to have, but discouraged.

--Travis

 

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