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My turn to respond:
IMHO LDraw is certainly not dead. In fact here in the Netherlands it’s is alive
and kicking. With me presenting it to the public at LEGOWORLD in Zwolle every
October I think there are many users who have joined since 2002 when I began
doing so. I ever so often get questions from Dutch users on my website and there
is an active topic on the forum of Lowlug. Many Dutch AFOLS are using it to
document models and create full instructions for them. The thing is that they do
not publish them or discuss at LUGNET but more on local forums or events.
However my concern would be this: imagine key people like the ones in the
streerco quitting, getting less time or worse. Then we'd have a major problem
like we had few years ago when LDraw was kind of dead due to the lack of part
updates. And I say "we" because LDraw is and always will be depending on
volunteers who put in their precious time for a great thing. And though I am not
very active lately here on LUGNET I still feel part of it.
On how to re-atract people to LUGNET I have no ideas, sorry.
Jaco
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In lugnet.cad, Jaco van der Molen wrote:
> My turn to respond:
>
> IMHO LDraw is certainly not dead. In fact here in the Netherlands it’s is alive
> and kicking. With me presenting it to the public at LEGOWORLD in Zwolle every
> October I think there are many users who have joined since 2002 when I began
> doing so. I ever so often get questions from Dutch users on my website and there
> is an active topic on the forum of Lowlug. Many Dutch AFOLS are using it to
> document models and create full instructions for them. The thing is that they do
> not publish them or discuss at LUGNET but more on local forums or events.
>
> However my concern would be this: imagine key people like the ones in the
> streerco quitting, getting less time or worse. Then we'd have a major problem
> like we had few years ago when LDraw was kind of dead due to the lack of part
> updates. And I say "we" because LDraw is and always will be depending on
> volunteers who put in their precious time for a great thing. And though I am not
> very active lately here on LUGNET I still feel part of it.
>
> On how to re-atract people to LUGNET I have no ideas, sorry.
>
> Jaco
I hadn't really thought about the pool of volunteers drying out but you are
right that it is. Even the 'new' names in key roles have been involved for many
years now. And for many years we have not needed an election for the SteerCo as
only 5 people have volunteered.
I put out a call for
<http://www.brothers-brick.com/2010/03/15/volunteering-for-ldraw/ volunteers> to
encourage people to get involved. We have to make people aware that without help
the status quo will not remain so forever. Again I do think we are partially a
victim of success. It seems to run smoothly again now that the library updates
are back so people forget that there is stuff going on to make that happen.
Tim
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In lugnet.cad, Timothy Gould wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Jaco van der Molen wrote:
> > My turn to respond:
> >
> > IMHO LDraw is certainly not dead. In fact here in the Netherlands it’s is alive
> > and kicking. With me presenting it to the public at LEGOWORLD in Zwolle every
> > October I think there are many users who have joined since 2002 when I began
> > doing so. I ever so often get questions from Dutch users on my website and there
> > is an active topic on the forum of Lowlug. Many Dutch AFOLS are using it to
> > document models and create full instructions for them. The thing is that they do
> > not publish them or discuss at LUGNET but more on local forums or events.
> >
> > However my concern would be this: imagine key people like the ones in the
> > streerco quitting, getting less time or worse. Then we'd have a major problem
> > like we had few years ago when LDraw was kind of dead due to the lack of part
> > updates. And I say "we" because LDraw is and always will be depending on
> > volunteers who put in their precious time for a great thing. And though I am not
> > very active lately here on LUGNET I still feel part of it.
> >
> > On how to re-atract people to LUGNET I have no ideas, sorry.
> >
> > Jaco
>
> I hadn't really thought about the pool of volunteers drying out but you are
> right that it is. Even the 'new' names in key roles have been involved for many
> years now. And for many years we have not needed an election for the SteerCo as
> only 5 people have volunteered.
>
> I put out a call for
> <http://www.brothers-brick.com/2010/03/15/volunteering-for-ldraw/ volunteers> to
> encourage people to get involved. We have to make people aware that without help
> the status quo will not remain so forever. Again I do think we are partially a
> victim of success. It seems to run smoothly again now that the library updates
> are back so people forget that there is stuff going on to make that happen.
>
> Tim
Part of the problem is that there are not as many presentations being given and
general overall evangelizing being done at fan conventions. This is partly due
to the fact that the de facto spokesman of the organization, Tim Courtney, has
been focusing on his professional career (a correct choice in my opinion) and
partly due to the fact that the backup spokesman (me) has had very little time
in the last 4 years to devote to conventions. If frequent convention goers (or
anyone) are willing to give presentations, lectures, workshops, etc... I can at
least set them up with a slideshow and other things.
-Orion
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In lugnet.cad, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad, Jaco van der Molen wrote:
> > > My turn to respond:
> > >
> > > IMHO LDraw is certainly not dead. In fact here in the Netherlands it’s is alive
> > > and kicking. With me presenting it to the public at LEGOWORLD in Zwolle every
> > > October I think there are many users who have joined since 2002 when I began
> > > doing so. I ever so often get questions from Dutch users on my website and there
> > > is an active topic on the forum of Lowlug. Many Dutch AFOLS are using it to
> > > document models and create full instructions for them. The thing is that they do
> > > not publish them or discuss at LUGNET but more on local forums or events.
> > >
> > > However my concern would be this: imagine key people like the ones in the
> > > streerco quitting, getting less time or worse. Then we'd have a major problem
> > > like we had few years ago when LDraw was kind of dead due to the lack of part
> > > updates. And I say "we" because LDraw is and always will be depending on
> > > volunteers who put in their precious time for a great thing. And though I am not
> > > very active lately here on LUGNET I still feel part of it.
> > >
> > > On how to re-atract people to LUGNET I have no ideas, sorry.
> > >
> > > Jaco
> >
> > I hadn't really thought about the pool of volunteers drying out but you are
> > right that it is. Even the 'new' names in key roles have been involved for many
> > years now. And for many years we have not needed an election for the SteerCo as
> > only 5 people have volunteered.
> >
> > I put out a call for
> > <http://www.brothers-brick.com/2010/03/15/volunteering-for-ldraw/ volunteers> to
> > encourage people to get involved. We have to make people aware that without help
> > the status quo will not remain so forever. Again I do think we are partially a
> > victim of success. It seems to run smoothly again now that the library updates
> > are back so people forget that there is stuff going on to make that happen.
> >
> > Tim
>
> Part of the problem is that there are not as many presentations being given and
> general overall evangelizing being done at fan conventions. This is partly due
> to the fact that the de facto spokesman of the organization, Tim Courtney, has
> been focusing on his professional career (a correct choice in my opinion) and
> partly due to the fact that the backup spokesman (me) has had very little time
> in the last 4 years to devote to conventions. If frequent convention goers (or
> anyone) are willing to give presentations, lectures, workshops, etc... I can at
> least set them up with a slideshow and other things.
>
> -Orion
I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
about my MOCs:
http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
I've been meaning to get it posted to the ILTCO database of presentations, but
ILTCO already has one foot in the grave.
Scott W.
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> I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> about my MOCs:
>
> http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
>
> I've been meaning to get it posted to the ILTCO database of presentations, but
> ILTCO already has one foot in the grave.
>
> Scott W.
You should add it to the ILTCO library. I can assure you that it's still used.
Tim
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In lugnet.cad, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> > about my MOCs:
> >
> > http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
> >
> > I've been meaning to get it posted to the ILTCO database of presentations, but
> > ILTCO already has one foot in the grave.
> >
> > Scott W.
>
> You should add it to the ILTCO library. I can assure you that it's still used.
>
> Tim
It's been so long since I looked at it, I forgot about the copyright of the
images. I'll need to get some OKs first and give credit where credit is due.
That semi-truck is 99% Pierre Normandin's design.
There are also some personal thoughts that may need to be cleaned up, so I don't
step on any toes.
Thanks,
Scott W.
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> I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> about my MOCs:
>
> http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
<snip>
> Scott W.
That's an absolutely fantastic presentation! Even a grumpy old man like me has
nothing to complain about it.
/Tore
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In lugnet.cad, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
> I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> about my MOCs:
>
> http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
I wish you could give that presentation at Bricks by the Bay...
(April 9-11, 2010 in Fremont, California - see bricksbythebay.com)
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In lugnet.cad, William R. Ward wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
> > I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> > about my MOCs:
> >
> > http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
>
> I wish you could give that presentation at Bricks by the Bay...
>
> (April 9-11, 2010 in Fremont, California - see bricksbythebay.com)
I'll accept two round-trip tickets and a nice hotel...just kidding. I'd love to
see it, but that one is a bit far for me to go this time. I'll be at BrickWorld
again this year, but even that is an 11 hour drive.
Scott W.
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In lugnet.cad, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> > If frequent convention goers (or
> > anyone) are willing to give presentations, lectures, workshops, etc... I can at
> > least set them up with a slideshow and other things.
> >
> > -Orion
>
> I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> about my MOCs:
>
> http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
>
> I've been meaning to get it posted to the ILTCO database of presentations, but
> ILTCO already has one foot in the grave.
>
> Scott W.
Thanks for the presentation Scott. I'd love to also see yours, Orion. I have
been in charge of presentations at the last two national AFOL events in Spain
(HispaBrick) and will be for the next one. I prepared a short and basic
presentation about LDraw and would love to prepare something bigger for the next
HispaBrick based on both your notes.
Jetro
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In lugnet.cad, Jetro de Chateau wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad, Orion Pobursky wrote:
>
> > > If frequent convention goers (or
> > > anyone) are willing to give presentations, lectures, workshops, etc... I can at
> > > least set them up with a slideshow and other things.
> > >
> > > -Orion
> >
> > I've been distributing my presentation by email, whenever I get someone asking
> > about my MOCs:
> >
> > http://www.scottwardlaw.com/lego/rb/ldraw_overview.ppt
> >
> > I've been meaning to get it posted to the ILTCO database of presentations, but
> > ILTCO already has one foot in the grave.
> >
> > Scott W.
>
> Thanks for the presentation Scott. I'd love to also see yours, Orion. I have
> been in charge of presentations at the last two national AFOL events in Spain
> (HispaBrick) and will be for the next one. I prepared a short and basic
> presentation about LDraw and would love to prepare something bigger for the next
> HispaBrick based on both your notes.
>
> Jetro
Here's the last version I gave:
http://www.pobursky.com/common/files/LDraw_Intro_2009.odp (19.3MB)
It's been a year since I gave it so it may be outdated.
-Orion
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In lugnet.cad, Orion Pobursky wrote:
>
> Here's the last version I gave:
> http://www.pobursky.com/common/files/LDraw_Intro_2009.odp (19.3MB)
>
> It's been a year since I gave it so it may be outdated.
>
> -Orion
Thank you Orion. I've finally found the presentation I made some time ago and if
you're interested you can download it here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QKOSECDN
It's in Spanish, but that should not be a problem. Any
suggestions/additions/improvements are welcome.
Jetro
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