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Hey all
I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
Please pardon the almost 2 week delay between my promise of pictures, and
the follow through, I must admit though the model is much improved since two
weeks ago though.=^)
The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
removable armor again as it is such a pain to build. Especially since this
model is almost entirely studless.
This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
wait or not I dunno.
Please excuse the varying degrees of light in the pics, I’m still working
all that photography stuff out. =^P
Anyways,
MP-2 Visage II, The succesor to the aging Visage platform currently in use
by many countries, features:
(1) Short Range Booster pack (with a ceiling of 60ft)
(1) 80mm Fully automatic assault rifle with 100 round ammo drum.
(2) 200mm Anti Material Energy Rifle with rechargable 300shot battery.
Smoke decoys are housed within the vent on the chest.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
Long Range Mecha Transport Vehicle (LRMTV), this unarmed vehicle, capable of
transporting the Visage II Thousands of miles over land and water was
designed specifically to carry the Visage II mecha platform. Cheap to
produce, these unarmed transports can move their cargo at speeds of up to
300 mph.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31632
the original Visage can be seen here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7503
Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
Let me know what you think!
Later
-Geordan-
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> Hey all
>
> I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
>
> Please pardon the almost 2 week delay between my promise of pictures, and
> the follow through, I must admit though the model is much improved since two
> weeks ago though.=^)
Hey, it looks well worth the wait.
> The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> removable armor again as it is such a pain to build. Especially since this
> model is almost entirely studless.
I tried removable armor once, just once, before deciding it was not for me.
I tend to think that it is one of the cooler 'look-at' styles, but man, it
is a real pain to get it that way.
> This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
> months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
> a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
> wait or not I dunno.
Wow, four months! I usually take a week max on my mechs, mostly because of
school and stuff. Although, I must admit, several of them are like works in
progress, as they have been changed so much. (the Atlas is in it's 5
resurrection, but 4 of them were on one Saturday) I like the result of your
work, but man, just pump one out for us next time ;<)
> Please excuse the varying degrees of light in the pics, I’m still working
> all that photography stuff out. =^P
Hey, join the Club ;<) I am learning too, and I have had my digicam for
almost a year.
Visage II
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
Transport
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31632
Orig. Visage
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7503
>
> Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
> gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
Hey, I like it alot too, the intricacies of the removable armor are
interesting to look at and figure out.
> Let me know what you think!
>
> Later
>
> -Geordan-
Ryan
http://graybandit0.tripod.com/clan/
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> Hey all
>
> I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
Hi,
I like the clean and effient look of the design a lot...
It can be tempting to add all sorts of frills and fringe to a design, and I
think your design stands out because you didn't. Makes it look more
realistic IMHO.
I hope you take this as a compliment: something about the shapes you used
and the proportions look very "generation 1 transformers"-esque to me.
good work!
Jk
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Man... It was just getting boring in build.mecha, and BAM! Here you come to
save the day, Geordo... ;-)
About the mecha:
The studlessness (my new word), the removable armour, the weapons, the
articulation... WOW WOW WOW WOW!
I love this mecha! The sloped armour on the legs is awesome, as is the whole
upper body. The weapons are great too, especially that 80mm rifle,
perfect... But I think with more tinkering, you could make those
Anti-Material Rifles much better (they're still mighty cool, give me some
ideas).
About the sled:
Lol, even though I don't know how plausible it is, you still did a pretty
good job with it. You actually gave it an interesting shape, and some nice
details.
Excellent work Geordan, you're best mecha yet (notice how I keep saying this
about every new mecha you make). :-D
Mladen Pejic, over and out!
http://www3.sympatico.ca/mladenpejic/
BTW, dude, wouldn't a battle between the Brute and the Visage II rule? I
think we know who'd win... ?-P
In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> Hey all
>
> I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
-snip-
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
>
> Long Range Mecha Transport Vehicle (LRMTV), this unarmed vehicle, capable of
> transporting the Visage II Thousands of miles over land and water was
> designed specifically to carry the Visage II mecha platform. Cheap to
> produce, these unarmed transports can move their cargo at speeds of up to
> 300 mph.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31632
>
> the original Visage can be seen here:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7503
>
> Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
> gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> Later
>
> -Geordan-
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dang, this mecha just makes me want to delve into the "studless" look even
more. too bad tiles are so expensive at bricklink. very nice form,
especially how the v-shape of the torso really accents the bulkiness of the
legs and armor. i also like how the weapons attach to the upper arms (i
know it's not a new idea, but i like it nevertheless). nice use of the
"sand beige" color, too.
In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> Hey all
>
> I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
>
> Please pardon the almost 2 week delay between my promise of pictures, and
> the follow through, I must admit though the model is much improved since two
> weeks ago though.=^)
>
> The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> removable armor again as it is such a pain to build. Especially since this
> model is almost entirely studless.
>
> This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
> months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
> a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
> wait or not I dunno.
>
> Please excuse the varying degrees of light in the pics, I’m still working
> all that photography stuff out. =^P
>
> Anyways,
>
> MP-2 Visage II, The succesor to the aging Visage platform currently in use
> by many countries, features:
>
> (1) Short Range Booster pack (with a ceiling of 60ft)
> (1) 80mm Fully automatic assault rifle with 100 round ammo drum.
> (2) 200mm Anti Material Energy Rifle with rechargable 300shot battery.
>
> Smoke decoys are housed within the vent on the chest.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
>
> Long Range Mecha Transport Vehicle (LRMTV), this unarmed vehicle, capable of
> transporting the Visage II Thousands of miles over land and water was
> designed specifically to carry the Visage II mecha platform. Cheap to
> produce, these unarmed transports can move their cargo at speeds of up to
> 300 mph.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31632
>
> the original Visage can be seen here:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7503
>
> Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
> gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> Later
>
> -Geordan-
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Nice. I think the features were well worth the two-month wait. The color scheme
is very nice, all the right ones in the right places.
Take care
Soren
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
<snip>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
That is sweet. I love the color choices, and your internal frames always
floor me. My faves about this one: Those big damn tan weapons, and the use
of minifig legs for knee joints. Great uniqueness. I wonder - how sturdy
are they?
I really need to get myself psyched and back into mecha. I've had a "small
moc" bug as of late - maybe a series of origami mecha would do nicely to get
the ball rolling.
-Chris
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Hey there G! I actually saw this before you posted it (I think it was
friday...) That's a great mecha! The arms came out pretty well. How mobile
are they? And I especially like what you did to the chest. The little panels
make it look great! That old flatchest was pretty...ummmmmm...bland, but you
really spiced it up!
In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> Hey all
>
> I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
>
> Please pardon the almost 2 week delay between my promise of pictures, and
> the follow through, I must admit though the model is much improved since two
> weeks ago though.=^)
>
> The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> removable armor again as it is such a pain to build. Especially since this
> model is almost entirely studless.
I'll bet it was.
>
> This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
> months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
> a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
> wait or not I dunno.
>
> Please excuse the varying degrees of light in the pics, I’m still working
> all that photography stuff out. =^P
>
> Anyways,
>
> MP-2 Visage II, The succesor to the aging Visage platform currently in use
> by many countries, features:
>
> (1) Short Range Booster pack (with a ceiling of 60ft)
cool
> (1) 80mm Fully automatic assault rifle with 100 round ammo drum.
very cool
> (2) 200mm Anti Material Energy Rifle with rechargable 300shot battery.
Yes!! you made arm mounted guns!!! Those things are so schweet! and they
almost look like rail guns! yahoooo!!
>
> Smoke decoys are housed within the vent on the chest.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
>
> Long Range Mecha Transport Vehicle (LRMTV), this unarmed vehicle, capable of
> transporting the Visage II Thousands of miles over land and water was
> designed specifically to carry the Visage II mecha platform. Cheap to
> produce, these unarmed transports can move their cargo at speeds of up to
> 300 mph.
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31632
>
> the original Visage can be seen here:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7503
>
> Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
> gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
As is the rest of Lugnet, whom I think will all agree with me.
Tim
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> Later
>
> -Geordan-
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> Hey all
>
> I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
Excellent work, m'man! I love that incredibly smooth look, and the colour
scheme is subtle and effective. Even the head is almost devoid of studs, an
incredible accomplishment on something that size.
> The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> removable armor again as it is such a pain to build.
I'm sorry to hear this-- you're the master of the removable armour!
> This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
> months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
> a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
> wait or not I dunno.
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
Yes, worth the wait and yes worht the effort! I know how it can be to get
bogged down with building and sometimes it takes a complete rebuild to get
it "right" -- you've done well here; you should be very very happy!
Doublepluscool!
stuart
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G-Miest! I'm always in awe of how you make those Frame's and then layer the
Armour all around! I enjoy seeing how you make Mecha. You have really got
the removeable Armour technique down. The feet are interesting, as is the head.
One other thing I wanted to mention is that I like how you managed to make
the internal frame just as big as it needs to be. The Model is compact in
that respect. Very cool.
The transport is a nice touch!
This picture is great:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=304043
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Thanks Eric!
In lugnet.build.mecha, Eric Sophie writes:
> G-Miest! I'm always in awe of how you make those Frame's and then layer the
> Armour all around! I enjoy seeing how you make Mecha. You have really got
> the removeable Armour technique down. The feet are interesting, as is the head.
yeah the head is not at all similar to the old head, but I couldn't make the
head the same way, without making the torso similar to the old visage, which
I didn't want to do. The new head looks good I think though.
>
> One other thing I wanted to mention is that I like how you managed to make
> the internal frame just as big as it needs to be. The Model is compact in
> that respect. Very cool.
>
> The transport is a nice touch!
Thanks again Eric!
-Geordan-
>
> This picture is great:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=304043
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Hey Stuart, glad to see you back in business as well ;-)
> Excellent work, m'man! I love that incredibly smooth look, and the colour
> scheme is subtle and effective. Even the head is almost devoid of studs, an
> incredible accomplishment on something that size.
Thanks!
>
> > The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> > armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> > removable armor again as it is such a pain to build.
>
> I'm sorry to hear this-- you're the master of the removable armour!
Yeah I am in a way too, cuz there are so many possibilities with removable
armour, but I don't want to go through all the frustrations again.
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
>
> Yes, worth the wait and yes worht the effort! I know how it can be to get
> bogged down with building and sometimes it takes a complete rebuild to get
> it "right" -- you've done well here; you should be very very happy!
> Doublepluscool!
Thanks again Stuart!
-Geordan-
>
> stuart
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Tim Rice writes:
> Hey there G! I actually saw this before you posted it (I think it was
> friday...) That's a great mecha! The arms came out pretty well. How mobile
> are they?
Thanks Tim, just as mobile as when you saw them (which isn't very mobile,
the shoulders and arms only move on two axis' combined)
And I especially like what you did to the chest. The little panels
> make it look great! That old flatchest was pretty...ummmmmm...bland, but you
> really spiced it up!
Thanks!
> As is the rest of Lugnet, whom I think will all agree with me.
> Tim
Thanks again Tim I'm looking forward to your next mecha!
-Geordan-
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Thanks Chris!
> That is sweet. I love the color choices, and your internal frames always
> floor me. My faves about this one: Those big damn tan weapons, and the use
> of minifig legs for knee joints. Great uniqueness. I wonder - how sturdy
> are they?
They work fine when the mecha is standing normally, but as soon as you try
to make an interesting pose with them they lose it and collapse.
>
> I really need to get myself psyched and back into mecha.
Yes yes yes!!!!!!
I've had a "small
> moc" bug as of late
it's those darn people in .space, they are infecting you with the mini moc
fads. ;^) (note that I got sucked in too) :^P
- maybe a series of origami mecha would do nicely to get
> the ball rolling.
yeah cool, I'm looking forward to em!!
thanks again
-Geordan-
>
> -Chris
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Thanks Soren!
In lugnet.build.mecha, Soren Roberts writes:
> Nice. I think the features were well worth the two-month wait. The color scheme
> is very nice,
Thanks, I've been wanting to try this scheme for a while on a largish mecha
but didn't have enough tan to make it look decent until now, but even still,
there is a very skimpy amount of tan on this mecha.
all the right ones in the right places.
>
> Take care
>
> Soren
Thanks again,
-Geordan-
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Jason Coronado writes:
> dang, this mecha just makes me want to delve into the "studless" look even
> more.
Yeah I like the studless look, but it does get annoying sometimes,
espeicially since using tiles makes your mecha all the more chunkier,
whether you want it or not.
too bad tiles are so expensive at bricklink. very nice form,
> especially how the v-shape of the torso really accents the bulkiness of the
> legs and armor. i also like how the weapons attach to the upper arms (i
> know it's not a new idea, but i like it nevertheless). nice use of the
> "sand beige" color, too.
Thanks Jason! I'm look forward to more mecha from you as well!
-Geordan-
>
> In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> > Hey all
> >
> > I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
> >
> > Please pardon the almost 2 week delay between my promise of pictures, and
> > the follow through, I must admit though the model is much improved since two
> > weeks ago though.=^)
> >
> > The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> > armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> > removable armor again as it is such a pain to build. Especially since this
> > model is almost entirely studless.
> >
> > This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
> > months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
> > a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
> > wait or not I dunno.
> >
> > Please excuse the varying degrees of light in the pics, I’m still working
> > all that photography stuff out. =^P
> >
> > Anyways,
> >
> > MP-2 Visage II, The succesor to the aging Visage platform currently in use
> > by many countries, features:
> >
> > (1) Short Range Booster pack (with a ceiling of 60ft)
> > (1) 80mm Fully automatic assault rifle with 100 round ammo drum.
> > (2) 200mm Anti Material Energy Rifle with rechargable 300shot battery.
> >
> > Smoke decoys are housed within the vent on the chest.
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31631
> >
> > Long Range Mecha Transport Vehicle (LRMTV), this unarmed vehicle, capable of
> > transporting the Visage II Thousands of miles over land and water was
> > designed specifically to carry the Visage II mecha platform. Cheap to
> > produce, these unarmed transports can move their cargo at speeds of up to
> > 300 mph.
> >
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=31632
> >
> > the original Visage can be seen here:
> > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7503
> >
> > Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
> > gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
> >
> > Let me know what you think!
> >
> > Later
> >
> > -Geordan-
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Mladen Pejic writes:
> Man... It was just getting boring in build.mecha, and BAM! Here you come to
> save the day, Geordo... ;-)
Actually, correction... YOU saved the day with your gorgeous MTP. ;^)
>
> About the mecha:
> The studlessness (my new word), the removable armour, the weapons, the
> articulation... WOW WOW WOW WOW!
Thanks Mladen!
>
> I love this mecha! The sloped armour on the legs is awesome, as is the whole
> upper body. The weapons are great too, especially that 80mm rifle,
> perfect...
Thanks, I originally had a ammo clip instead of a drum but the drum looked
so much cooler :P
But I think with more tinkering, you could make those
> Anti-Material Rifles much better (they're still mighty cool, give me some
> ideas).
Yeah they were kinda slopped together, I think they need some more detail,
maybe battery packs or something of the sort.
>
> About the sled:
> Lol, even though I don't know how plausible it is, you still did a pretty
> good job with it. You actually gave it an interesting shape, and some nice
> details.
Thanks, you're right about it not being at all realistic though ;)
>
> Excellent work Geordan, you're best mecha yet (notice how I keep saying this
> about every new mecha you make). :-D
:-D Thanks, can't wait for more of your stuff too!
>
> Mladen Pejic, over and out!
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/mladenpejic/
>
> BTW, dude, wouldn't a battle between the Brute and the Visage II rule? I
> think we know who'd win... ?-P
now THAT would be a fight, you've got that dang bazooka though so loss for
me woudld be inevitable. :P
see ya and thanks again
-Geordan-
>
> In lugnet.build.mecha, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> > Hey all
> >
> > I present the successor to the Visage, the Visage II!
>
> -snip-
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Hey joel! Glad to see you back and building! :-)
> I like the clean and effient look of the design a lot...
> It can be tempting to add all sorts of frills and fringe to a design, and I
> think your design stands out because you didn't. Makes it look more
> realistic IMHO.
thanks!
>
> I hope you take this as a compliment: something about the shapes you used
> and the proportions look very "generation 1 transformers"-esque to me.
That means nothing to me since I'm not into transformers but I'll take it as
a compliment anyway :-)
Thanks Joel
-Geordan-
>
> good work!
> Jk
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> Hey, it looks well worth the wait.
Thanks Ryan!
>
> > The main feature of this model is the fully removable and almost studless
> > armor, which I must admit, was a PAIN to build. I'm never building with
> > removable armor again as it is such a pain to build. Especially since this
> > model is almost entirely studless.
>
> I tried removable armor once, just once, before deciding it was not for me.
> I tend to think that it is one of the cooler 'look-at' styles, but man, it
> is a real pain to get it that way.
It really is.
>
> > This must have been the longest time I’ve spent building a mecha, (four
> > months) it just wasn’t that much fun to build, but I really wanted to build
> > a studless removable armor mecha, so here it is. Whether it was worth the
> > wait or not I dunno.
>
> Wow, four months!
yeah I really didn't have alot of incentive to build. :S
I usually take a week max on my mechs, mostly because of
> school and stuff. Although, I must admit, several of them are like works in
> progress, as they have been changed so much. (the Atlas is in it's 5
> resurrection, but 4 of them were on one Saturday) I like the result of your
> work, but man, just pump one out for us next time ;<)
hehe I'll try, right now I'm working on a dropship that should be done in a
couple of weeks, but I have a multiped mecha planned after that. We'll see
what happens!
>
> > Please excuse the varying degrees of light in the pics, I’m still working
> > all that photography stuff out. =^P
>
> Hey, join the Club ;<) I am learning too, and I have had my digicam for
> almost a year.
it's been 3 years here, you have nothing to be ashamed of ;)
> > > Aside from all the frustrations that went along with the building process I
> > gotta say I am pleased with the final result. =^)
>
> Hey, I like it alot too, the intricacies of the removable armor are
> interesting to look at and figure out.
Thanks Ryan!
-Geordan-
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Geordan! Awww man! The armor! The frame! Great work.
I must say the use of the minifig legs as joints is very 'ol skool'! That is
a great idea.
I am partial to studless designs and this takes the cake! How many showing
studs, 8 maybe? Pure awesomeness-ishy!! :^B
The weapons are great and creative and the LRMTV is cool, but kinda
contradicts in style to the Visage 2. It is very stud laden, the opposite of
the V2. Still look great. Kinda reminds me of a hoverboard. Teeheehee :^D
Finally I wnat to point out an oddity about the Visage 2. IMHO the neck area
seems a little unprotected and skinny. The rest of the mech is a big bulky
bad @$$ fighting machine, but the neck looks a wee to small. Just some
critisism.
All in all, you raised your mecha building abilities to a new level this
time! Great work!
out
Tony Knaak
http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/index/index.html
http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/mechastruct.html
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Tony Knaak writes:
> Geordan! Awww man! The armor! The frame! Great work.
Thanks Tony!
> I must say the use of the minifig legs as joints is very 'ol skool'! That is
> a great idea.
>
> I am partial to studless designs and this takes the cake! How many showing
> studs, 8 maybe? Pure awesomeness-ishy!! :^B
Thanks, probably around 20 in all I figure :P
>
> The weapons are great and creative and the LRMTV is cool, but kinda
> contradicts in style to the Visage 2. It is very stud laden, the opposite of
> the V2.
Yeah, if I had enough tiles I definitely woulda made it studless too, but I
used up pretty much everything on the mecha. :^P
Still look great. Kinda reminds me of a hoverboard. Teeheehee :^D
>
> Finally I wnat to point out an oddity about the Visage 2. IMHO the neck area
> seems a little unprotected and skinny. The rest of the mech is a big bulky
> bad @$$ fighting machine, but the neck looks a wee to small. Just some
> critisism.
yeah, originally I had no neck, and it looked really bulky, but too much
like a football player with his head scrunched in so I added the neck. It
does look like it could pop off easy though.
>
> All in all, you raised your mecha building abilities to a new level this
> time! Great work!
Thanks Tony, I appreciate the comments!
-Geordan-
>
> out
> Tony Knaak
> http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/index/index.html
> http://www.ozbricks.com/legostuff/mechastruct.html
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