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Subject: 
Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
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lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space
Date: 
Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:42:59 GMT
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royce.fay@home.com^ihatespam^
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Can I suggest one more category?

12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more)

I like to think big...

Royce


On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:14:59 GMT, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com>
wrote:

I grew up on classic Space (1978-1986) and I still have a huge soft spot in
my heart for old simple smileys and single-color astronaut uniforms.

It's seeming more and more like the LEGO Space System product line (originally
LEGOLAND Space, followed by Blacktron, Futuron, Space Police, etc.) is dead --
and probably won't come back -- having been replaced by Star Wars, Rock
Raiders, and next year's Life on Mars play theme.

So...

I'd like to announce a building contest!

The 1st Annual Classic Space Set Design and Building Contest.


RULES
-----

1.  Come up with a new classic space set design -- something that wasn't ever
released by LEGO but which fits into the classic space style.  Design a set
that looks like it might have been a real set at the time.  Every model must
have at least one minifig and must not use non-classic space minifigs (these
are all-white, all-red, all-yellow, all-blue, and all-black).

2.  To enter, post a message to lugnet.build.contests and lugnet.space and
give the URL showing pictures of your model or models.  After things get
rolling, I'll put together a webpage linking to the entries.

3.  Deadline for entries is November 30, 2000.  Judging begins on December 1.
Only those who have entered the contest may vote.  You can submit more than
one entry, but no more than one per day (so start early if you're going to
build a lot of entries).  Each entry you submit gains you three vote points
in the category of your entry.  You can apply your votes to other people's
models when the voting begins.  (You can't vote for your own models.)  More
details about this later.

4.  Pure LDraw (or MLCAD, LeoCAD, etc.) designs are OK but *MUST* use pieces
in colors which LEGO has actually produced.


CATEGORIES
----------

There are 11 categories.  Enter as many or as few as you like, and make as
many entries in each category as you like.  Real-life examples follow the
name of each category.  (Note: some of the examples shown below aren't
classic space sets, but help illustrate the size/shape/style/flavor of the
category.)

1. Itty Bitty Polybag-Size Ships (approx. 20 pieces)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=885,6803,6801,1557,6806,6808,1620_1,1462,1711,1858,1974_4,1875,1887,1916,1954,2543,2847,6902,6816

2. Small Ships (approx. 20-80 pieces)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=891,6824,6848_2,6846,6820,6825,6872,6861_1,6830,6810,6832,6850

3. Medium Ships (approx. 100-200 pieces)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=918_1,924,6890,6891

4. Large Ships (approx. 300-1000 pieces)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=928,6929,6931,6973,6980,6984,6985,6986
  (minimal baseplate use OK but discouraged)

5. Utility Vechicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=894,889,1558,1580_1,6821,6823,6826,6841,6844,6847,6849,6880,6883,6952

6. Walker Vehicles (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6882,6940,6876

7. Small Mobile Ship Launchers (approx. 50-200 pieces)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6870,6871,6874

8. Mobile Rocket Launchers (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=897,6881,6950

9. Mobile Laboratories (any size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+6901_1,6926,6927,6928,6925,6933,6989

10. Space Bases (any large size, 1000 pieces or fewer)
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=+920_2,926,6930,6970,6971,6972,6987,6988,6990,6991

11. The Ugliest, Wackiest Thing in Space
  http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=1593,1968,6951,6862,6884
  (The goal here is to make UGLY but functional stuff.  It's gotta be
  believable, though -- and look like LEGO *might* have released it.)


DESIGN CRITERIA
---------------

* Follow the original classic space color schemes as closely as possible.
(Blue/Gray/Trans-Yellow, Gray/Trans-Green, White/Black/Trans-DarkBlue, etc.)

* Follow the general design principles used in classic space sets.  (It's up
to you to reverse-engineer the design principles and apply them here. :-)

* Try to use only "period elements" -- elements which actually existed in
1978-1986.  Use of more modern elements won't disqualify you, but try to
avoid them if possible.  Your models will be more convincing with older
elements.

* Design and show alternative models using pieces from your main model!
Remember the backs of boxes that said, "Build any of these exciting models
with this set!"?  See if you can come up with some neat alternative models.

* Functionality is king!  Go for ships that have compartments that launch
reconaissance scouts or store equipment, bases that open up and do or store
interesting things, medium-sized ships that splits into a detachable
segments, etc.  Come up with some cool stuff!


PRIZES
------

A lifetime supply of Jar-Jar and Timmy heads!  .....No, just kidding.

Actually, this is a contest without prizes.  The fun here is in the doing --
the building and idea-sharing.

The more people participate, the more everyone wins.


A NON-ENTRY EXAMPLE
-------------------

Here is a little ship built in the style of the 928 Galaxy Explorer, 924 Space
Cruiser, and 918 Space Transport sets:

  http://www.lugnet.com/~1/LittleShip/

I won't enter this, but I hope it can serve as an example.  I think it captures
the style of the other three ships pretty well, but it also "cheats" a bit and
uses at least 3 elements which didn't exist in 1979.  One is the 2x2.5x2 box
with door at the stern of the ship, the other two are the 4x4 trans-yellow
hinged roof entry to the cockpit and the 1x4 plate hinge that it attaches to.
(There might be others...I forget.)

If someone could figure out a way to re-engineer a ship like this using only
period elements, I would be extremely joyful to hear about it (and see it :-)!
One other problem with my design is that the tail end likes to fall off.  In
the quest for "realism," I sacrified a bit of structural integrity.  Points
off for that, of course.  :-)

--Todd


Subject: 
Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
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lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space
Date: 
Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:56:30 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Royce Fay writes:
Can I suggest one more category?

12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more)

If this is going to happen, it should more properly be Mammoth anything-
also including walkers, ground vehicles, etc.  Also, I'd shy away from
"mammoth" including whole base complexes.  Usually a huge base consists of a
number of separate buildings which I would think should be separate entries.
Now if it is a single massive building... that's another matter and is
totally acceptable.

All my opinion of course, and totally ignoreable if you disagree or are
otherwise offended in any way.

--
Tony Hafner
www.hafhead.com
www.pnltc.org


Subject: 
Re: Classic Space set design and building contest
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Date: 
Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:29:35 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Tony Hafner writes:
In lugnet.build.contests, Royce Fay writes:
Can I suggest one more category?

12. Mamoth Bases and/or Ships (any size, 1000 peices or more)

If this is going to happen, it should more properly be Mammoth anything-
also including walkers, ground vehicles, etc.  Also, I'd shy away from
"mammoth" including whole base complexes.  Usually a huge base consists of a
number of separate buildings which I would think should be separate entries.
Now if it is a single massive building... that's another matter and is
totally acceptable.

All my opinion of course, and totally ignoreable if you disagree or are
otherwise offended in any way.

I agree with Tony on that point -- how about instead of one big mammoth
category, submit 4 or 5 smaller models that you can optionally combine to
make a larger meta-model.

There actually was a "super-large (any size)" category originally when I was
typing up the first post, but I axed it because I wanted to stay as close to
the spirit of the original real LEGO sets as possible.  They never made any
Space set bigger than about 500-700 pieces back then.

--Todd


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