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butt-to-butt connections
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Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:20:48 GMT
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I’m soliciting solutions to a not-unfamiliar SNOT-construction quandry:

What’s the best way to attach brown bricks butt-end to butt-end (the ends opposite the studs) securely, using only brown pieces that are readily available (i.e. available in quanitity on Bricklink)?

The best solution I’ve come up with is to use these pieces periodically:



and then the two halves are secured together with some cross beams.

Any other ideas? The goal is to have a smooth surface on top, so the delicious technic plate (e.g. part 4263) mated to two 2x2 L-shaped plates (part 2420) won’t work as the technic plates have rounded edges. Technic pins leave little gaps, and 1x1 bricks with 3 studs aren’t produced in brown yet (are they?). Soooooo, let the brainstorming begin!

.s


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Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:23:15 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
   I’m soliciting solutions to a not-unfamiliar SNOT-construction quandry:

What’s the best way to attach brown bricks butt-end to butt-end (the ends opposite the studs) securely, using only brown pieces that are readily available (i.e. available in quanitity on Bricklink)?

The best solution I’ve come up with is to use these pieces periodically:



and then the two halves are secured together with some cross beams.

Any other ideas? The goal is to have a smooth surface on top, so the delicious technic plate (e.g. part 4263) mated to two 2x2 L-shaped plates (part 2420) won’t work as the technic plates have rounded edges. Technic pins leave little gaps, and 1x1 bricks with 3 studs aren’t produced in brown yet (are they?). Soooooo, let the brainstorming begin!

In how large or small a space are you hoping to accomplish this reversal?

I have an idea, but it might not fit in the scale you’re envisioning.

Dave!


Subject: 
Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:38:28 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
   I’m soliciting solutions to a not-unfamiliar SNOT-construction quandry:

What’s the best way to attach brown bricks butt-end to butt-end (the ends opposite the studs) securely, using only brown pieces that are readily available (i.e. available in quanitity on Bricklink)?

The best solution I’ve come up with is to use these pieces periodically:



and then the two halves are secured together with some cross beams.

Any other ideas? The goal is to have a smooth surface on top, so the delicious technic plate (e.g. part 4263) mated to two 2x2 L-shaped plates (part 2420) won’t work as the technic plates have rounded edges. Technic pins leave little gaps, and 1x1 bricks with 3 studs aren’t produced in brown yet (are they?). Soooooo, let the brainstorming begin!

.s

WHOOSH... this lower half just flew over my head. I’m not very clear on exactly what you want here. But I followed your question. Have you tried log (both 1 x 2 and 1 x 4) bricks with 2L technic rods shoved up and attached to each other backwards with studs on both sides? Hope that helps.

Legoswami Samarth


Subject: 
Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:55:29 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
   I’m soliciting solutions to a not-unfamiliar SNOT-construction quandry:

What’s the best way to attach brown bricks butt-end to butt-end (the ends opposite the studs) securely, using only brown pieces that are readily available (i.e. available in quanitity on Bricklink)?

The best solution I’ve come up with is to use these pieces periodically:



and then the two halves are secured together with some cross beams.

Any other ideas? The goal is to have a smooth surface on top, so the delicious technic plate (e.g. part 4263) mated to two 2x2 L-shaped plates (part 2420) won’t work as the technic plates have rounded edges. Technic pins leave little gaps, and 1x1 bricks with 3 studs aren’t produced in brown yet (are they?). Soooooo, let the brainstorming begin!

.s

What do you mean by ‘on top’? Are these butt-to-butt bricks supposed to form a flat surface, or upright walls with the studs facing out left and right, or a vertical wall with studs up and down? Can you handle sticking-out bits or studs on one side or the other?

The simplest thing I can think of is a line of 1x4 technic plates, each with a 2x2 plate on top. Then, join them together with 2x2 plates pushed into the holes upside down.

That way, you get a line of just one-plate thickness alternately two studs up and two studs down. But, it’s two-studs deep, so if you can’t hide that it’s no good.

Jason Railton


Subject: 
Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:10:58 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Jason J. Railton wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
   I’m soliciting solutions to a not-unfamiliar SNOT-construction quandry:

What’s the best way to attach brown bricks butt-end to butt-end (the ends opposite the studs) securely, using only brown pieces that are readily available (i.e. available in quanitity on Bricklink)?

The best solution I’ve come up with is to use these pieces periodically:



and then the two halves are secured together with some cross beams.

Any other ideas? The goal is to have a smooth surface on top, so the delicious technic plate (e.g. part 4263) mated to two 2x2 L-shaped plates (part 2420) won’t work as the technic plates have rounded edges. Technic pins leave little gaps, and 1x1 bricks with 3 studs aren’t produced in brown yet (are they?). Soooooo, let the brainstorming begin!

.s

What do you mean by ‘on top’? Are these butt-to-butt bricks supposed to form a flat surface, or upright walls with the studs facing out left and right, or a vertical wall with studs up and down? Can you handle sticking-out bits or studs on one side or the other?

I’m curious about the “studs-out” orientation as well. Either up-down or left-right (front-back). Each has their own particular spatial geometry, when talking about Lego brick. It would be help if you did something like the following description:

“Studs must be in the top-bottom arrangement. One example would be, 2 1x2 bricks (6 plate thickness’ in total), bottom to bottom. Variations are acceptable, as long as, 1) Total plate thickness does not vary (no movement, in or out - 6 plates stays 6 plates once assembled, and is maintained under slight compression, and some effort is needed to disassemble this particular sub-construct, in the same way that 2 1x2 bricks hold together in “normal” construction. 2) total volume is 1x2x2 with the addition of the stud useable on the bottom - i.e. no extra parts showing, or extra studs - 4 studs total.”


That kind of thing would be useful to brain storming.


   snip > Jason Railton


C-ya, Rich


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Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:56:49 GMT
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"Jason J Railton" <j.j.railton@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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The simplest thing I can think of is a line of 1x4 technic plates, each
with a
2x2 plate on top.  Then, join them together with 2x2 plates pushed into
the
holes upside down.

1x4 ***Technic*** plate??  What part # is that??  I have not come across a
piece described as such in the catalog.


Cheers ...

Geoffrey Hyde


Subject: 
Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:01:48 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Geoffrey Hyde wrote:

"Jason J Railton" <j.j.railton@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:IByEKH.12Ln@lugnet.com...

The simplest thing I can think of is a line of 1x4 technic plates, each
with a
2x2 plate on top.  Then, join them together with 2x2 plates pushed into
the
holes upside down.

1x4 ***Technic*** plate??  What part # is that??  I have not come across a
piece described as such in the catalog.

There's a whole category devoted to them on Bricklink:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catID=140

ROSCO


Subject: 
Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:37:16 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan wrote:

Prompted by this thread, I went back and did some further fiddling with my bricks. It turns out that the skeleton arms fit neatly in next to the tubing at the bottom of a brick- any brick, and the other half can fit into the end of another brick. This way, you aren’t limited to the log bricks etc while using butt-to-butt connections, but you can use ALL bricks. The trouble is, you’ll need a SCARRRRY number of skeleton arms to pull it off on a larger scale.

Legoswami Samarth


Subject: 
Re: butt-to-butt connections
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Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:17:28 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Jason J. Railton wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
   I’m soliciting solutions to a not-unfamiliar SNOT-construction quandry:

What’s the best way to attach brown bricks butt-end to butt-end (the ends opposite the studs) securely, using only brown pieces that are readily available (i.e. available in quanitity on Bricklink)?

The best solution I’ve come up with is to use these pieces periodically:



and then the two halves are secured together with some cross beams.

Any other ideas? The goal is to have a smooth surface on top, so the delicious technic plate (e.g. part 4263) mated to two 2x2 L-shaped plates (part 2420) won’t work as the technic plates have rounded edges. Technic pins leave little gaps, and 1x1 bricks with 3 studs aren’t produced in brown yet (are they?). Soooooo, let the brainstorming begin!

.s

What do you mean by ‘on top’? Are these butt-to-butt bricks supposed to form a flat surface, or upright walls with the studs facing out left and right, or a vertical wall with studs up and down? Can you handle sticking-out bits or studs on one side or the other?

The simplest thing I can think of is a line of 1x4 technic plates, each with a 2x2 plate on top. Then, join them together with 2x2 plates pushed into the holes upside down.

That way, you get a line of just one-plate thickness alternately two studs up and two studs down. But, it’s two-studs deep, so if you can’t hide that it’s no good.

Jason Railton

My best idea for doing this flush in a 1-brick thick wall is to make a line of headlight bricks, if you can get enough in brown. You alternate one upright, one face down, one upright, one face down, all pushed together. If the last one is upright you can use a 1x1 technic brick for neatness. Then you put a 1x1 plate on the downward face of the face-down ones. Now you have alternating studs top and bottom.

There’s another neat trick from doing upright/face-up/upright/face-up headlight bricks to get a regular 1/2-stud stepped base for building on.

Jason R


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