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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jumpei Mitsui wrote:
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This is my biggest challenge and still under construction.
1/40 Battleship YAMATO
It’s minifig scale, and it will come to 6.5m (21ft).
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Is 1:40 minifig scale?
I’d like to ellicit a wide number of opnions because I’m just about to start
building a (much smaller) minifig scale model.
I assumed a minifig to be 6ft tall, giving me a ratio of 1 to 46 (rounded).
The japanese are a lot smaller, so to them perhaps minifig scale is 40:1.
Has their ever been an agreed standard for Minifig scale? or is their just an
acceptable range?
LMKWYT
Steve
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In lugnet.build, Steve Lane wrote:
> Is 1:40 minifig scale?
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> I'd like to ellicit a wide number of opnions because I'm just about to start
> building a (much smaller) minifig scale model.
Heh, I've done some checking...
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=33904
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=36062
Really, the answer is "whatever you think is right". Minifigs are just built
very un-humanly. Very thick front-to-back, very wide, or very short. Or all
three.
In general, people usually derive scale by minifig height, typically yielding
somewhere around 1:38 - 1:44. I think average human height is roughly 5'6"
(males being taller on average, females being shorter on average), and
"standard" minifigs are about 42mm tall (but can be taller/shorter depending on
the use of neck accessories, headgear, stubby legs, minifig skirts, etc)
Of course the other school of thought is "No, minifig scale is its own thing".
Basically, that minifig models should use selective compression, the same way
that Lego sets do. Things like cars which are typically 4-wide? Trains that are
6-wide? Storey's that are 6 bricks tall? Pft. Minifigs have a scale that's all
their own.
I typically use a little of both. Plus, if it's a HUGE model, I tend to go for a
smaller scale so that I won't run out of bricks. If it's a small model, I'll opt
for a larger scale so that I can put in more detail. Or in some cases, I'll find
a "defining" part of the model-- like "Oh, this particular piece looks
perfect!", and I'll base the rest of the scale around that one element.
> Has their ever been an agreed standard for Minifig scale? or is their just an
> acceptable range?
Nope, nothing definite, unless you're explicitly building a model for a layout
that's got a certain standard arranged by other builders.
A long time ago, I went with the 6-feet-average-height, and came up with this
converter, that assumes 7mm = 1 minifig scale foot by default:
http://www.suave.net/~dave/cgi/scale.cgi
But you can change the default to assume minifigs are however tall you want.
DaveE
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In lugnet.build, Steve Lane wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jumpei Mitsui wrote:
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This is my biggest challenge and still under construction.
1/40 Battleship YAMATO
It’s minifig scale, and it will come to 6.5m (21ft).
|
Is 1:40 minifig scale?
I’d like to ellicit a wide number of opnions because I’m just about to start
building a (much smaller) minifig scale model.
I assumed a minifig to be 6ft tall, giving me a ratio of 1 to 46 (rounded).
The japanese are a lot smaller, so to them perhaps minifig scale is 40:1.
Has their ever been an agreed standard for Minifig scale? or is their just an
acceptable range?
LMKWYT
Steve
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If you use 1 inch = 1 meter, a minifig is about 4 1/2 feet tall, a good size to
relate to kids, I think. Then use four studs = one “inch”, or one meter. It’s
not really accurate, but it sure is easy!
Tim (Smith)
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In lugnet.build, Timothy P. Smith wrote:
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In lugnet.build, Steve Lane wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jumpei Mitsui wrote:
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This is my biggest challenge and still under construction.
1/40 Battleship YAMATO
It’s minifig scale, and it will come to 6.5m (21ft).
|
Is 1:40 minifig scale?
I’d like to ellicit a wide number of opnions because I’m just about to start
building a (much smaller) minifig scale model.
I assumed a minifig to be 6ft tall, giving me a ratio of 1 to 46 (rounded).
The japanese are a lot smaller, so to them perhaps minifig scale is 40:1.
Has their ever been an agreed standard for Minifig scale? or is their just
an acceptable range?
LMKWYT
Steve
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If you use 1 inch = 1 meter, a minifig is about 4 1/2 feet tall, a good size
to relate to kids, I think. Then use four studs = one “inch”, or one meter.
It’s not really accurate, but it sure is easy!
Tim (Smith)
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I agree with previous posts that the variability of minifigs, not to mention
their dispropotion nature means that a number of scales are possible. However,
for me personally Minifig scale is not really 40:1. I have been doing a lot of
work with Minifig scaling including an automatic spreadsheet to convert
‘real-world’ to minfig scale in studs, meters and feet. My conclusion is that
the closest practical scale is 1:45, making Yamato 6.06m or 19.8 ft.
This having been said, the most important thing about large minifig projects in
my experience is scaling the items to the actual bricks available an so that
they work for the model in question. To this end Jumpei Mitsui’s work is
superb! Each of the items is cleverly crafted to actual work in minifig scale
and just like the real thing. As an avid fan of Naval history I can only admire
his work and ask myself: if only I had a spare 20ft space to create such a
monster!
Ed (Diment)
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In lugnet.build, Ed Diment wrote:
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I have been doing a lot of work with Minifig scaling including an automatic
spreadsheet to convert ‘real-world’ to minfig scale in studs, meters and feet.
My conclusion is that the closest practical scale is 1:45, making Yamato 6.06m
or 19.8 ft.
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Huh, I don’t think I’ve heard of minifig scale being more than 1:44 (making
“standard” minifigs just over 6 feet tall). Except maybe for specific projects?
1:45 would make them about 6’2.4” (1.89m) tall, 2’3.5” (72cm) wide, and 1’2.2”
(36cm) front-to-back. Of course, *lower* seems to be popular, like 1 stud = 1
minifig foot (about 1:38), and if you gauge by minifig width or depth, you’ll
get even lower still (although I can’t think of anything offhand that’s used
less than 1:38 for MF scale, but I’ll bet there are some out there). I’m
curious, though-- how did you come up with 1:45?
(I think the most popular measures I’ve seen are 1 stud = 1 minifig foot (1:38)
and 3 studs = 1 minifig meter (1:42))
DaveE
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In lugnet.build, Steve Lane wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jumpei Mitsui wrote:
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This is my biggest challenge and still under construction.
1/40 Battleship YAMATO
It’s minifig scale, and it will come to 6.5m (21ft).
|
Is 1:40 minifig scale?
I’d like to ellicit a wide number of opnions because I’m just about to start
building a (much smaller) minifig scale model.
I assumed a minifig to be 6ft tall, giving me a ratio of 1 to 46 (rounded).
The japanese are a lot smaller, so to them perhaps minifig scale is 40:1.
Has their ever been an agreed standard for Minifig scale? or is their just an
acceptable range?
LMKWYT
Steve
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I personally advocate 1 stud to the foot, which is about 1:38. If the stud size
is exactly 8mm then it’s 1:38.1. If a stud size is 5/16” then it’s 1:38.4.
There’s little difference between the two, unless you build something 14630
plates high (47m), in which case there’ll be 1 plate difference!
I use a scale just between the two, primarily because the gauge of 9V railway
track is 37.66mm and I build models of trains of real gauge 4’8.5” (1435.1mm),
giving a scale of 1:38.1067. (The trains are not 8-wide for British prototypes,
but a little larger, and US boxcars would be a little over 10-wide).
In these scales, a 6ft person would be 48mm tall, so a 42mm minifig would be
5’3”, or a bit taller with neck attachments. As long as your adults average
between 5ft and 6ft no-one will worry.
That’s 3 opinions!
Mark
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In lugnet.build, Steve Lane wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jumpei Mitsui wrote:
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This is my biggest challenge and still under construction.
1/40 Battleship YAMATO
It’s minifig scale, and it will come to 6.5m (21ft).
|
Is 1:40 minifig scale?
I’d like to ellicit a wide number of opnions because I’m just about to start
building a (much smaller) minifig scale model.
I assumed a minifig to be 6ft tall, giving me a ratio of 1 to 46 (rounded).
The japanese are a lot smaller, so to them perhaps minifig scale is 40:1.
Has their ever been an agreed standard for Minifig scale? or is their just an
acceptable range?
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I always accord minifigs 1:35 scale, possibly 1:32, because those are the
closest “standard military” scales. But also, I go by the average of the
minifigs’ dimensions, which sort of implies they are 5’ tall and very, very
broad. So I am staying close to 1:35 for my new ship, as I do for most of my
.military construction.
I’m not however certain that any dimensions were significantly reduced on ships
the Japanese produced before WWII to account for the size of the crews, in the
way it was done for tanks and later aircraft.
best
LFB
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