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Hi,
http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
(click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
Well, almost everything is said in the document introduction.
Since I've discovered the community 4 years ago, I feel the need for a
compilation of building techniques. More recently, reading various
forums/articles (among them classic-castle, mechahub, and excellent posts by
Linus Bohman on classic-space) I feel again the need for such a document.
The fact is that I wrote this some months ago and I felt then the document was
not complete. The reason I release it today is that I did not work on it since
then for various reasons. So I feel I should share it now.
Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new techniques
every year) can't be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
Please, LMKWYT
Didier
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
>
> (click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
>
> Well, almost everything is said in the document introduction.
>
> Since I've discovered the community 4 years ago, I feel the need for a
> compilation of building techniques. More recently, reading various
> forums/articles (among them classic-castle, mechahub, and excellent posts by
> Linus Bohman on classic-space) I feel again the need for such a document.
>
> Please, LMKWYT
>
> Didier
This is a very useful resource. Thanks for putting it together!
David
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
>
> (click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
>
> Well, almost everything is said in the document introduction.
>
> Since I've discovered the community 4 years ago, I feel the need for a
> compilation of building techniques. More recently, reading various
> forums/articles (among them classic-castle, mechahub, and excellent posts by
> Linus Bohman on classic-space) I feel again the need for such a document.
>
> The fact is that I wrote this some months ago and I felt then the document was
> not complete. The reason I release it today is that I did not work on it since
> then for various reasons. So I feel I should share it now.
>
> Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new techniques
> every year) can't be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
>
> Please, LMKWYT
>
> Didier
Nice work collating this information, Didier! This is the kind of stuff I ike to
keep as reference!
Joe
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Wow! Thanks for all this hard work. There wasnt much not familiar in there (at
first glance) but to have all this knowledge in one place instead of scattered
all over the Lego web is brilliant! Thanks again!
God Bless,
Nathan (who is looking forward to a nice read...)
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Hey Didier,
This is a pretty good start towards a technique compendium, but I can think of a
few things you missed. Theres element stressing (as
discussed at Brickfest 06),
and I think it would benefit from a section on articulation. After all, joints
arent just for mecha! Also, sculpture techniques such as Brams
LSculpt are worth a mention, and perhaps a
section on angles.
I think a website would be more suited for this project. Having it as a .pdf
necessitates downloading the same content every new update, and theres the
question of how often to update. Having a single author limits the range,
because of course nobody has the time to follow all the various genres for
technique advances. And as you already experienced, the danger of burnout is
always present in one person trying to tackle such a huge amount of information.
Anyone want to pioneer a site?
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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I think a website would be more suited for this project.
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Anyone want to pioneer a site?
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You could always add any techniques you like to the
BrickWiki
building
techniques category. As its a wiki, it can be edited by anyone, including you!
ROSCO
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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I think a website would be more suited for this project.
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Anyone want to pioneer a site?
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You could always add any techniques you like to the
BrickWiki
building
techniques category. As its a wiki, it can be edited by anyone, including
you!
ROSCO
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I was about to suggest that a wiki would be the perfect way to organize/document
Technic building techniques. I didnt know about brickwiki!
-mark
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Alas! A tragedy of redundancy. I guess I have to bookmark it now, even though I
cant be bothered to contribute.
Perhaps the wiki might benefit from some marketing? I dont see any links on
Lugnet, for example...
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
Hi Kevin
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This is a pretty good start towards a technique compendium, but I can think
of a few things you missed. Theres element stressing (as
discussed at Brickfest
06),
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This presentation about stressing the elements is HUGE but suffer from being not
widely known. Every builder have to read it.
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and I think it would benefit from a section on articulation.
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Yes. Seen very good things on mechahub about articulation - again not widely
known, for instance Joint Technology by Chris Snead :
http://www.mechahub.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=167
(two parts)
(PS : check also in mechahub articles section stuffs about Gestalt)
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After all,
joints arent just for mecha! Also, sculpture techniques such as Brams
LSculpt are worth a mention,
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I agree, worth a mention. (and more)
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and perhaps
a section on angles.
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Sorry, I cant really see what you mean exactly.
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I think a website would be more suited for this project. Having it as a .pdf
necessitates downloading the same content every new update, and theres the
question of how often to update. Having a single author limits the range,
because of course nobody has the time to follow all the various genres for
technique advances. And as you already experienced, the danger of burnout is
always present in one person trying to tackle such a huge amount of
information.
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You are totally right on these points. Im about to reply about Brickwiki
farther on this thread.
Didier
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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I think a website would be more suited for this project.
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Anyone want to pioneer a site?
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You could always add any techniques you like to the
BrickWiki
building
techniques category. As its a wiki, it can be edited by anyone, including
you!
ROSCO
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Hi Ross,
As you know Ive contributed/supported BrickWiki from the very beginning in
every ways I could. I still hope it will encounter more audience than it has
today (both for the contributors and readers part of the audience). I hope this
thread will help this way :-)...but until now, Im disappointed it hasnt
fullfilled is goal :-(.
And I think people would also enjoy (at least as a reader I prefer) an off-line
and unique document rather than a on-line website.
In both cases, the more difficult part of the job is to collect and to gather
informations spreaded on various websites articles and forums, so I encourage
people to duplicate their findings to BrickWiki. (to contribute Brickwiki is
almost as simple as copy / paste).
Didier
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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Anyone want to pioneer a site?
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I just forget to mention the blog Unique Brique Techniques (the link is in the
lugnet.build.schleim side bar)
http://uniquebriquetechniques.blogspot.com/
A blog I was used to check on a daily basis but unfortunately no more updated
:-(
Of course, this blog is not an organized collection of building techniques but a
collection of links to MOCs using building techniques...and I enjoy this a lot
as techniques should not exist only for their own sake.
Didier
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
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http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
(click Télécharger document , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
Well, almost everything is said in the document introduction.
Since Ive discovered the community 4 years ago, I feel the need for a
compilation of building techniques. More recently, reading various
forums/articles (among them classic-castle, mechahub, and excellent posts by
Linus Bohman on classic-space) I feel again the need for such a document.
The fact is that I wrote this some months ago and I felt then the document was
not complete. The reason I release it today is that I did not work on it since
then for various reasons. So I feel I should share it now.
Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new
techniques every year) cant be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
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Didier - congratulations on putting this together. Its a very useful resource.
My apologies to the Brick-Wiki-Fiddlers, but I much prefer a well-written
document like this to inter-linked pages. BrickWiki may be useful as a
reference, but a well-structured straight-through read captures my interest much
more.
I like the tenth-offset model displayed there - I didnt have access to as many
1x1 technic bricks when I did mine, so its good to see it updated.
Ill try to find the graphics of my 4-stud high letters that went into the Brick
Issue for you. Only one of them was actually published - I do have a second,
thicker font.
Ive not seen all the 2-high SNOT lettering collected together before. That is
very useful. Ive used an R with an offset right-leg myself, to distinguish
it from the A. Ive noticed it used at Legoland Windsor too. I see youve
also included it for the letter K. Adding another 1x1 plate bottom-right to
the O makes for a good Q too.
To distinguish between Y and V, you can use what youve listed as 4 for a
Y (and optionally include a line at the bottom, like the lower case y but
moved up).
There are some simpler alternatives for L and T and S, which just use two
or three vertical plates. They dont need the regular columns of 1x1 plates and
so may be easier to fit in.
The L is a vertical 1x2 plate with a 1x1 plate bottom-right. The T is a
vertical 1x2 plate with a 1x1 plate top-left and top-right. The S is a
vertical plate with a 1x1 plate bottom-left and top-right.
In this way, it is possible to do several characters using just vertical plates.
The other technique I use with this is to alternate colours of adjacent letters,
so you dont need spaces between them. This is how I fit SNOT lettering onto
4x8 containters:
Ive managed to fit NBLTC, GWLTC and SNOT (in sand green) on the sides of
containers in this way.
Finally, there is a regular method to construct these characters. On each stack
of 5 plates forming a column, make the bottom two 1x2 plates pointing away from
you, and the top three 1x1 plates. At the back, first fit a 1x1 technic brick
with the holes facing to the sides. Then, on the next whole column, fit one of
the new 1x1 bricks with studs on two sides. Keep alternating these two options
along the line of text, wherever there is a column of 5 plates. Then, using
vertical plates and tiles, you can join everything together with the SNOT pieces
in-between.
The one thing that will break up a chain of letters is a single vertical tile in
the centre of a letter. That is why I prefer my simpler version of T, and a
vertical line (with a space either side) for I.
Jason R
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
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And I think people would also enjoy (at least as a reader I prefer) an
off-line and unique document rather than a on-line website.
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Didier,
I completely agree with this statement. I think online resources are awesome,
but I, at least, dont build in front of my computer. Having an off-line
document like this that pulls everything together will easily find its way to
my building area.
-Elroy
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
Nice link... Thanks much!
God Bless,
Nathan
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I also prefer offline documents but I would rather download a small
single-technique .pdf file than a large book of techniques when I just want to
to try one particular thing.
The ultimate would be a set of BrickWiki articles each with a corresponding .pdf
version and a single compilation of all currently available .pdf files on the
subject for those who like to download everything at once.
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
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Hi Ross,
As you know Ive contributed/supported BrickWiki from the very beginning in
every ways I could. I still hope it will encounter more audience than it has
today (both for the contributors and readers part of the audience). I hope
this thread will help this way :-)...but until now, Im disappointed it
hasnt fullfilled is goal :-(.
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Not good enough. Wishing is no excuse for not promoting a site you claim to
believe in. I did a quick search to get some context on the history of this
wiki, and there are many roffles to be had, but
this thread basically tells
you all you need to know. My feelings can most accurately be summed up in the
following image macro:
This thread is now about strategies for promoting Brickwiki. Go!
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Hi Didier,
thanks for this great resource for advanced use of LEGO elements! Youve
collected much more SNOT and Co. stuff then I did when I did my website years
ago. And yes, there are allways new elements and there are so many hobbiest
finding even more possibilities to connect the known pieces in undescribed ways.
So it will be a task like translating the Bible if you/we want to track all
building techniques. And in the end isnt an advanced building technique a
technique which is not described at any website, book or ebook? Isnt it the
challenge to find even cooler ways of connecting elements.
SNOT vs. stressing the elements ... We are the hobbiest, we have the freedom
of choice how we connect elements. LEGO has to follow its own rules and I would
say it is up to LEGO to promote these rules much better to the (fan) public.
And what is behind SNOT? Here is an example of high-end building technique by
mijasper
See more at: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=133999
+++
The discussion here shows how multiple the information resources are today.
There are still folks out there which do not know about brickwiki for example. I
dont blame someone in person I just say that there are so many possibilities
and noone has the chance to use all resources. Therefore I would say a good
mixture is a good thing to have: Some ebook like PDFs, some websites, some wikis
... We will never find one way which fits all.
I am thankful for resources like Didiers PDF. And I also know the need of such
resources. Many emails are popping in form folks seeing my gallery or website
and asking - form our old-afol-view - simple questions. So it is nice to have
resources like that in background.
Sorry for my unsorted thoughts and ideas ...
Good to see the Schleim-Group still schleiming!
Holger
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Holger Matthes wrote:
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Hi Didier,
thanks for this great resource for advanced use of LEGO elements! Youve
collected much more SNOT and Co. stuff then I did when I did my website years
ago.
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Thank you Holger. Your website is the one where I discovered SNOT for the first
time and it made me enjoy fine building techniques.
SNIP
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SNOT vs. stressing the elements ... We are the hobbiest, we have the
freedom of choice how we connect elements. LEGO has to follow its own rules
and I would say it is up to LEGO to promote these rules much better to the
(fan) public.
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Yes, and we have to learn about the rules if we want to break them the best way
:-)
Awesome stuffs here - Checkemall !
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+++
The discussion here shows how multiple the information resources are today.
There are still folks out there which do not know about brickwiki for
example. I dont blame someone in person I just say that there are so many
possibilities and noone has the chance to use all resources. Therefore I
would say a good mixture is a good thing to have: Some ebook like PDFs, some
websites, some wikis ... We will never find one way which fits all.
I am thankful for resources like Didiers PDF. And I also know the need of
such resources. Many emails are popping in form folks seeing my gallery or
website and asking - form our old-afol-view - simple questions. So it is nice
to have resources like that in background.
Sorry for my unsorted thoughts and ideas ...
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I enjoy unsorted thoughts when they so well summarize a situation.
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Good to see the Schleim-Group still schleiming!
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No comment by John here ? Where is he ? :-)
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
>
> (click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
>
> Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new techniques
> every year) can't be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
>
> Please, LMKWYT
Hi Didier,
I think you have done a very good work! It's surprising how it is interesting to
read even if you already know the techniques.
Some years ago, I read something similar (but really don't know where on
internet!) but it wasn't so complete as yours. I think, besides the lettering,
you could add many others chapters, like "windows and door", "roads and tracks",
"roofs and dome"... BrickShelf is full with ideas, AFoLs and LEGO find every day
new way to use the bricks, so this guide could never have a real end.
I would like to translate at least the "vocabolary and geometry of LEGO bricks"
part for an Italian version, if you allow me. Do you?
Cheers,
Luca
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
> >
> > (click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
> >
> > Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new techniques
> > every year) can't be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
> >
> > Please, LMKWYT
>
> Hi Didier,
> I think you have done a very good work!
Thank you Luca.
> It's surprising how it is interesting to
> read even if you already know the techniques.
> Some years ago, I read something similar (but really don't know where on
> internet!) but it wasn't so complete as yours. I think, besides the lettering,
> you could add many others chapters, like "windows and door", "roads and tracks",
> "roofs and dome"... BrickShelf is full with ideas, AFoLs and LEGO find every day
> new way to use the bricks, so this guide could never have a real end.
> I would like to translate at least the "vocabolary and geometry of LEGO bricks"
> part for an Italian version, if you allow me. Do you?
Yes I agree.
Let me be clear. You know that eventhough some part of the guide content is
directly from me, it is in fact a collection of stuffs which are not from me.
All the content comes from lugnet/brickshelf/forums/personal websites etc.
I feel I have the moral right to use these tips and tricks because :
- The authors have originally publicly shared their findings with us,
- I credit the people the best I can,
- In return I share my work.
In fact I don't really feel I deserve any rights on the guide. Then, how could I
disagree when people ask me to use it ?
To all : Use my work, credit people, and share.
Didier
PS : I'm pretty busy right now, but I'll publish later some more usable version
of the guide than pdf for editing purpose. (kind of "source" in Word and
OpenOffice version and separated illustrations).
> Cheers,
> Luca
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Jason J Railton wrote:
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
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http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
(click Télécharger document , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
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SNIP
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Didier - congratulations on putting this together. Its a very useful
resource.
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Thank you Jason,
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Ill try to find the graphics of my 4-stud high letters that went into the
Brick Issue for you. Only one of them was actually published - I do have a
second, thicker font.
Ive not seen all the 2-high SNOT lettering collected together before. That
is very useful. Ive used an R with an offset right-leg myself, to
distinguish it from the A. Ive noticed it used at Legoland Windsor too.
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It seem LL Designers are really into making letterings those days - Ive seen a
lot on BS pictures from LLCA.
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I see youve also included it for the letter K. Adding another 1x1 plate
bottom-right to the O makes for a good Q too.
To distinguish between Y and V, you can use what youve listed as 4 for
a Y (and optionally include a line at the bottom, like the lower case y
but moved up).
There are some simpler alternatives for L and T and S, which just use
two or three vertical plates. They dont need the regular columns of 1x1
plates and so may be easier to fit in.
The L is a vertical 1x2 plate with a 1x1 plate bottom-right. The T is a
vertical 1x2 plate with a 1x1 plate top-left and top-right. The S is a
vertical plate with a 1x1 plate bottom-left and top-right.
In this way, it is possible to do several characters using just vertical
plates.
The other technique I use with this is to alternate colours of adjacent
letters, so you dont need spaces between them. This is how I fit SNOT
lettering onto 4x8 containters:
Ive managed to fit NBLTC, GWLTC and SNOT (in sand green) on the sides
of containers in this way.
Finally, there is a regular method to construct these characters. On each
stack of 5 plates forming a column, make the bottom two 1x2 plates pointing
away from you, and the top three 1x1 plates. At the back, first fit a 1x1
technic brick with the holes facing to the sides. Then, on the next whole
column, fit one of the new 1x1 bricks with studs on two sides. Keep
alternating these two options along the line of text, wherever there is a
column of 5 plates. Then, using vertical plates and tiles, you can join
everything together with the SNOT pieces in-between.
The one thing that will break up a chain of letters is a single vertical tile
in the centre of a letter. That is why I prefer my simpler version of T,
and a vertical line (with a space either side) for I.
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The construction of these characters is really difficult and your regular method
is now of interest as the 1x1 brick with two studs is more widely available. Id
like to find another way to fix the single vertical line chain breaker problem
because your L,S and T present large bars. I also like your alternate colors
trick because it follows the spirit of more details in less space by cheating
the eye.
Thanks,
Didier
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
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The construction of these characters is really difficult and your regular
method is now of interest as the 1x1 brick with two studs is more widely
available. Id like to find another way to fix the single vertical line chain
breaker problem because your L,S and T present large bars. I also like your
alternate colors trick because it follows the spirit of more details in less
space by cheating the eye.
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Oh yes, I didnt mean they look better, just that theyre simpler. It just
means I can do the British train mark L.M.S. using only vertical plates, so I
can fit it on a smaller engine than this one!
It can look better if you make the vertical lines two plates thick, because then
they balance out the horizontal bars. But, you can only do this with some
letters.
You may notice that the wagon in the background uses a yellow J in the
vertical style (forgot to mention that letter) with a red drop-shadow to the
bottom right. The whole thing is done in a 1-stud wide wall too.
Unfortunately, the alphabet for this style consists of one letter - J - lucky
for me!
The other thing I like about vertical letters is that you can add a shadow to
the right quite easily:
This is actually a very useful technique if you only have a few small plates in
your background colour. Most of the space is filled with the shadow colour
instead.
Of course, lettering tiles is a fairly quick way to do things too. The white
stripes on the blue engine is the hard way of doing things though.
Other schleimers might like to take a look at the split 2/3 plate SNOT on the
front of the brown carriage. See my article here:
http://www.brickish.org/bi/bi9.pdf
Jason R
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
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Hi Ross,
As you know Ive contributed/supported BrickWiki from the very beginning in
every ways I could. I still hope it will encounter more audience than it has
today (both for the contributors and readers part of the audience). I hope
this thread will help this way :-)...but until now, Im disappointed it
hasnt fullfilled is goal :-(.
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Not good enough. Wishing is no excuse for not promoting a site you claim to
believe in.
This thread is now about strategies for promoting Brickwiki. Go!
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Didier already includes links to Brickwiki in his PDF document, thats good.
But as much as it needs promotion, Brickwiki needs contributors too.
Unfortunately most people would rather use the information than add to it (human
nature), but I would encourage anyone that knows of a building technique not yet
covered there to add it.
Or any other LEGO-related subject for that matter.
ROSCO
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
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Hi Ross,
As you know Ive contributed/supported BrickWiki from the very beginning in
every ways I could. I still hope it will encounter more audience than it has
today (both for the contributors and readers part of the audience). I hope
this thread will help this way :-)...but until now, Im disappointed it
hasnt fullfilled is goal :-(.
|
Not good enough. Wishing is no excuse for not promoting a site you claim to
believe in. I did a quick search to get some context on the history of this
wiki, and there are many roffles to be had, but
this thread basically
tells you all you need to know. My feelings can most accurately be summed up
in the following image macro:
This thread is now about strategies for promoting Brickwiki. Go!
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The brickwiki (or the trains bit anyway) is linked from the .trains sidebar and
for its first year or so had a bigger mention higher up the page too.
Tim
(meaning you need to check out .trains :-) )
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Jason J Railton wrote:
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Other schleimers might like to take a look at the split 2/3 plate SNOT on the
front of the brown carriage. See my article here:
http://www.brickish.org/bi/bi9.pdf
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Let me correct that: http://www.brickish.org/bi/bi9.pdf The technique uses two plates on one side
of a brick, and three plates on the other.
Here are my 4-stud-vertical fonts, including all the alternatives that were cut
from the Brick Issue
#3 article. Ive added numbers too:
Ive provided the thin type, with some alternative character renderings. These
let you do rounder or thinner characters, depending on your preferred style and
available space.
Below them are my thicker characters, mostly made by adding 1x4 plates. These
give clearer text and often let you join one side of the SNOT lettering on a
truck through to the other side with a 4x4 or 4x6 plate.
Compare the thin and thick text styles on these two wagons:
Also, dont think Im cheating by adding a line to the font sample on the E
and 3 characters. If you use 1x1 plates at the top (instead of a vertical 1x2
plate), the seam can enhance how readable the character is (again, see the dark
red wagon above).
If you go up a directory from the font, youll also see a ridiculously
complicated K and R design using the half-plate thickness of a 1x2-1x4
bracket. Honestly, its not worth going this far...
Jason R
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
Hi Didier,
I've read your document, there are some very good techniques described, some of
which I've used in a MOC I'm currently working on. I notice it seems to focus
quite a bit on SNOT, are there plans to expand beyond that (like determining
structural integrity on large models, adding movement to mocs, modular building
techniques for transporting large models, etc.)?
When I first saw this thread I was very excited, and thought that Allan Bedford
was working on a sequel to his book, "The Unofficial LEGO Builder's Guide". So I
was a little disappointed this wasn't it. Maybe that book will come out someday,
though.
- Kelly
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
> In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
>
> Hi Didier,
>
> I've read your document, there are some very good techniques described, some of
> which I've used in a MOC I'm currently working on. I notice it seems to focus
> quite a bit on SNOT, are there plans to expand beyond that (like determining
> structural integrity on large models, adding movement to mocs, modular building
> techniques for transporting large models, etc.)?
I have a few plans to expand but not in the ways you quote. I'd like to read
about these themes from you. Eventhough since I've seen the setup of the"window
into the community" in Portland, I'm not sure you're the one to speak about
transporting large models ;-)
>
> When I first saw this thread I was very excited, and thought that Allan Bedford
> was working on a sequel to his book, "The Unofficial LEGO Builder's Guide". So I
> was a little disappointed this wasn't it.
I'm sorry for that. Maybe I should have used a title less confusing with Allan's
book. It was more or less intentional, but I'm now not happy with this choice.
> Maybe that book will come out someday,
> though.
Only Allan could answer this :)
The fact is that I try (not succeeding) to live without waiting for anything,
for two main reasons :
- My waitings are potentially beyond the results, so I will be disappointed,
- While waiting, I don't contribute, I'm not active. Let your wishes come true
by yourself :)
Thank you,
Didier
>
> - Kelly
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
> In lugnet.build.schleim, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
> > In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
> >
> > Hi Didier,
> >
> > I've read your document, there are some very good techniques described, some of
> > which I've used in a MOC I'm currently working on. I notice it seems to focus
> > quite a bit on SNOT, are there plans to expand beyond that (like determining
> > structural integrity on large models, adding movement to mocs, modular building
> > techniques for transporting large models, etc.)?
>
> I have a few plans to expand but not in the ways you quote. I'd like to read
> about these themes from you. Eventhough since I've seen the setup of the "window
> into the community" in Portland, I'm not sure you're the one to speak about
> transporting large models ;-)
Why do you think I need to read more about it??! :-D Oh, I can transport them
just fine... so long as you'd like them to arrive in many, many pieces...
- Kelly
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Great resource Didier! It's wonderful to have so many techniques compiled into
one document. This would be perfect for handing out hard-copies of at LUG
meetings, among many uses.
A couple of things that occurred to me while reading it...
1. Minor English criticism - in several places, you use the word "building" as a
noun to describe things people have made. Typically that word is only used to
describe an edifice such as a house, office, shop, etc. not just any combination
of parts. I would probably substitute "construction" or "creation" or something
like that instead.
2. In the SNIR section, why not add a bit about how you can achieve a 1:8 ratio
angle using hinges, as done by LEGO in the Sopwith Camel airplane? Also, how
about the 3:4:5 and 5:12:13 Pythagorean triangles?
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
>
> (click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
>
> Well, almost everything is said in the document introduction.
>
> Since I've discovered the community 4 years ago, I feel the need for a
> compilation of building techniques. More recently, reading various
> forums/articles (among them classic-castle, mechahub, and excellent posts by
> Linus Bohman on classic-space) I feel again the need for such a document.
>
> The fact is that I wrote this some months ago and I felt then the document was
> not complete. The reason I release it today is that I did not work on it since
> then for various reasons. So I feel I should share it now.
>
> Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new techniques
> every year) can't be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
>
> Please, LMKWYT
>
> Didier
Didier, this is a fantastic piece of work - even better since the last time I
saw it. I'm terribly sorry in case you tried to reach me again; way back when I
slipped of the 'net, my e-mail also went haywire and I completely forgot about
this. If you'd want, I could expand the lego-built circle section slightly by
adding a few (approximate) diameters, and adding a few new ways to build circles
that I've been meaning to post about.
Again, fantastic work!
Linus
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Didier Enjary wrote:
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Kevin Heckel wrote:
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Anyone want to pioneer a site?
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I just forget to mention the blog Unique Brique Techniques (the link is in
the lugnet.build.schleim side bar)
http://uniquebriquetechniques.blogspot.com/
A blog I was used to check on a daily basis but unfortunately no more updated
:-(
Of course, this blog is not an organized collection of building techniques
but a collection of links to MOCs using building techniques...and I enjoy
this a lot as techniques should not exist only for their own sake.
Didier
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It is true that UBT does not update anymore, but one of its contributor is now
involved in The Brothers Brick. The content from
UBT will also be ported to that blog (if it hasnt already). TBB mainly
highlights good mocs, but we also do the occasional technique post.
Linus
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In lugnet.build.schleim, William R. Ward wrote:
> Great resource Didier! It's wonderful to have so many techniques compiled into
> one document. This would be perfect for handing out hard-copies of at LUG
> meetings, among many uses.
>
> A couple of things that occurred to me while reading it...
>
> 1. Minor English criticism - in several places, you use the word "building" as a
> noun to describe things people have made. Typically that word is only used to
> describe an edifice such as a house, office, shop, etc. not just any combination
> of parts. I would probably substitute "construction" or "creation" or something
> like that instead.
Thank you - I'keep this thread in my bookmarks and I'll fix that in the next
release
> 2. In the SNIR section, why not add a bit about how you can achieve a 1:8 ratio
> angle using hinges, as done by LEGO in the Sopwith Camel airplane? Also, how
> about the 3:4:5 and 5:12:13 Pythagorean triangles?
Yes, the SNIR chapter needs an improvment with advanced use of hinges parts.
More ideas or resources ?
Thanks,
Didier
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In lugnet.build.schleim, Linus Bohman wrote:
> In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
SNIP
>
> Didier, this is a fantastic piece of work - even better since the last time I
> saw it.
I'm terribly sorry in case you tried to reach me again; way back when I
> slipped of the 'net, my e-mail also went haywire and I completely forgot about
> this.
It's my fault, I was perfectly aware about that situation and I should have
contact you through CSF.
> If you'd want, I could expand the lego-built circle section slightly by
> adding a few (approximate) diameters, and adding a few new ways to build circles
> that I've been meaning to post about.
Yes, you are welcome for that. I have some minor fixing to do before and then
I'll send you an editable document.
> Again, fantastic work!
Thank you,
Didier
> Linus
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In lugnet.announce, Didier Enjary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> http://photos.freelug.org/main.php/v/6studs/docs/SB/SBv1.pdf.html
>
> (click "Télécharger document" , pdf document - 1,7Mb )
>
> Well, almost everything is said in the document introduction.
>
> Since I've discovered the community 4 years ago, I feel the need for a
> compilation of building techniques. More recently, reading various
> forums/articles (among them classic-castle, mechahub, and excellent posts by
> Linus Bohman on classic-space) I feel again the need for such a document.
>
> The fact is that I wrote this some months ago and I felt then the document was
> not complete. The reason I release it today is that I did not work on it since
> then for various reasons. So I feel I should share it now.
>
> Such a document obviously (TLC is releasing new parts leading to new techniques
> every year) can't be exhaustive and would need numerous updates.
>
> Please, LMKWYT
>
> Didier
Wow, nice work Didier!
I recall using the axle and tube method shown back in 2003-2004 when I built my
completely stud free (correct proportion) monolith from 2001:
<<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/epsilon/Monolith-from-2001/monolith05.jpg>>
I assume this technique was widely known before then but it surprised me at the
time that nobody had used it - now with this guide everyone can know the useful
techniques that others have used for ages :D
Cheers,
-Matt
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