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A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Hello,

After the unofficial presentation in a false scientific document [1], I’m proud to announce you my latest application with SNIR technique [2].



This window is a combinaison of SNIR and SNOT.

When two 1x1 parts are placed in diagonal and turned with a 45° angle, (so the two parts are parallel) the gap between the 1x1 parts is exactly the thickness of a tile.



The width of a tile added with a stud height is 3 plates (or a brick or 2 plates + 1 tile) high.



So, using this technique, I built the window where 1x1 parts are the glasses and the tiles the borders. At last, this structure is placed vertically.

In my example of the window, I used trans-yellow plates as support in order to keep the transparency. It is a good way to reconcile ClassicSpace and ClassicCastle fans ;-)

Oh, and watch how I fixed the red flag. I used a spanner. A good idea in my mind to use screwdrivers and to have flags parallel to the wall.

The folder on brickshelf after moderation : http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=98760


[1] Didier “SixStuds” Enjary, Journal of Theoretical and Applied LEGO Mathematics II, http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=98445 [2] Reinhard “Ben” Beneke, Studs Not In Row, http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=69760

Erik / brickerik

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:08:14 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:
   Hello,

After the unofficial presentation in a false scientific document [1], I’m proud to announce you my latest application with SNIR technique [2].



Snippage
  
Erik / brickerik

Very cool hack. I know what SNOT is but SNIR? Hmmmm. Studs Not Infra Red? Studs Not Inside Routers? Studs Not Immobilized Readily? .......


Mike

    
          
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:36:23 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Mike Kollross wrote:
   In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:
   Hello,

After the unofficial presentation in a false scientific document [1], I’m proud to announce you my latest application with SNIR technique [2].



Snippage
  
Erik / brickerik

Very cool hack. I know what SNOT is but SNIR? Hmmmm. Studs Not Infra Red? Studs Not Inside Routers? Studs Not Immobilized Readily? .......


Mike

Hey Mike, I believe it is Studs Not In Row. Cool window, but it doesn’t look like it is very sturdy.

Chris Perron

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:32:43 GMT
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Very cool window!

But how are the studs not in a row? The SNOT I see, but not the SNIR.

Marc Nelson Jr.

    
          
      
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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In lugnet.build, Marc Nelson, Jr. wrote:
   Very cool window!

But how are the studs not in a row? The SNOT I see, but not the SNIR.

Marc Nelson Jr.

I beleive the phase comes about because they started off not in a a row (well not in a standard row anyway), the second image shows them placed on a diagonal grid of SIR (Studs In a Row). However I would say that they have ended up in a standard row.

Tim

    
          
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:33:28 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Marc Nelson, Jr. wrote:
   Very cool window!

But how are the studs not in a row? The SNOT I see, but not the SNIR.



Thanks :)

Well, it depends maybe of our vision of what is SNIR. The 1x1 parts are not adjacent but in diagonal. And the alignment of the turned parts creates an offset. So we obtain a lign of studs, not in the standard way but in diagonal. It’s a particular SNIR, okay :)

Erik / brickerik

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:10:50 GMT
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Hey Erik,

Great design idea!  I actually saw this on Brickshelf and started to post an
announcement over on Classic-Castle.com before I noticed you'd announced it
here.  If you'd like to check out the discussion on Classic-Castle, my post is
here:

http://www.classic-castle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2448

Bruce

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:27:51 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:

Dear Erik,

this is really very well and clever done! What a cool idea to combine SNIR and SNOT to a link between space (crowd shouting “SPAAACE!!!! from the background!) and castle (mumble of “Castle - castle! from some sheep builders...)”.

And it is in fact a very cool idea to use the spanner and headlightbrick to fix the flag on the wall.

Thanks for the credit for “SNIR” which I have to pass forward to a forgotten 1000steine meber who invented that acronym years ago.

Keep on bricking!





my oldgrey Homepage:







   Hello,

After the unofficial presentation in a false scientific document [1], I’m proud to announce you my latest application with SNIR technique [2].



This window is a combinaison of SNIR and SNOT.

When two 1x1 parts are placed in diagonal and turned with a 45° angle, (so the two parts are parallel) the gap between the 1x1 parts is exactly the thickness of a tile.



The width of a tile added with a stud height is 3 plates (or a brick or 2 plates + 1 tile) high.



So, using this technique, I built the window where 1x1 parts are the glasses and the tiles the borders. At last, this structure is placed vertically.

In my example of the window, I used trans-yellow plates as support in order to keep the transparency. It is a good way to reconcile ClassicSpace and ClassicCastle fans ;-)

Oh, and watch how I fixed the red flag. I used a spanner. A good idea in my mind to use screwdrivers and to have flags parallel to the wall.

The folder on brickshelf after moderation : http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=98760


[1] Didier “SixStuds” Enjary, Journal of Theoretical and Applied LEGO Mathematics II, http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=98445 [2] Reinhard “Ben” Beneke, Studs Not In Row, http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=69760

Erik / brickerik

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:09:34 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:
   Hello,

After the unofficial presentation in a false scientific document [1], I’m proud to announce you my latest application with SNIR technique [2].

This window is a combinaison of SNIR and SNOT.

When two 1x1 parts are placed in diagonal and turned with a 45° angle, (so the two parts are parallel) the gap between the 1x1 parts is exactly the thickness of a tile.

Well, to be picky, it’s not *exactly* the same thickness. A tile is 0.4 “stud-widths” thick, but the distance between 2 such windows is about 0.414 (square-root of 2 minus 1) stud-widths. Over a larger area you would start to notice the difference, but luckily LEGO is quite forgiving of such tolerances :)

   The width of a tile added with a stud height is 3 plates (or a brick or 2 plates + 1 tile) high.

Again not exact but definitely close enough :)

   So, using this technique, I built the window where 1x1 parts are the glasses and the tiles the borders. At last, this structure is placed vertically.

The window looks wonderful!

ROSCO

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:11:15 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:
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Hello,

great work! Sometimes I think everything is build in all kind of building techniques. But you show us that there are even more great ways to combine LEGO bricks. I love that kind of window, there is a good chance to find it in a new Venice house?!

Journal of Theoretical and Applied LEGO Mathematics ... haha, that sounds just great. Where can I get volume I? And where can I get the other pages of volume II? If you start working on volume III - please let me know.

And thanks for quoating me in this article ;-)


Keep on snoting and sniring!

HoMa

HoMa’s World of Bricks

    
          
      
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:13:50 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Holger Matthes wrote:
   In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:
   SNIP


Journal of Theoretical and Applied LEGO Mathematics ... haha, that sounds just great. Where can I get volume I? And where can I get the other pages of volume II? If you start working on volume III - please let me know.

Hi Holger.

Thanks for showing interest on JoTaALM.

In a first attempt, the idea was to make an hoax just for fun, as the one I made when I was studying chemistry at university (not LEGO related). Of course volume I doesn’t exist. I can’t tell more about the other pages of volume II. The references at the end of the article let us think about Topless techniques !! hum...sounds great ;-) maybe more to come !! (but this one will certainly be published in ILTCO library).

   And thanks for quoating me in this article ;-)

It’s my pleasure. I really enjoy your website, ben works and all theoretical and applied works on building techniques (SNOT, SNIR, AZMEP....)
  
Keep on snoting and sniring!

and even AZMEPing...

Didier “6Studs” Enjary

    
          
      
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:48:20 GMT
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   great work! Sometimes I think everything is build in all kind of building techniques. But you show us that there are even more great ways to combine LEGO bricks. I love that kind of window, there is a good chance to find it in a new Venice house?!


Thanks :) Hum, I’m sure there is still a lot of building techniques. I made a presentation at BricMania about one, ToPLeSs, and I have to finish the traduction in english to post it.


   Journal of Theoretical and Applied LEGO Mathematics ... haha, that sounds just great. Where can I get volume I? And where can I get the other pages of volume II? If you start working on volume III - please let me know.

That was an idea from Didier. It was just a fake. But maybe a day...

   Keep on snoting and sniring!

Well, I really discovered SNOT one year ago, and now, I use it in each Moc I made :)) It’s a great building technique.

Erik / brickerik

    
          
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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In lugnet.build, Holger Matthes wrote:
   In lugnet.announce, Erik Amzallag wrote:
   SNIP



  
Journal of Theoretical and Applied LEGO Mathematics ... haha, that sounds just great. Where can I get volume I? And where can I get the other pages of volume II? If you start working on volume III - please let me know.

Hi,

Last week-end in The FreeLUG LEGO train show in Orléans, Xavier show me a building tip he used to make the color scheme of the blue/gray TGV.

James Mathis used a close building technique (but different) for the same locomotive. I’ve decided to study a bit farther these building tips :

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/JoTaALM/JoTaALM/jotaalm-1.pdf

Didier Enjary

    
          
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Hi,

Last week-end in The FreeLUG LEGO train show in Orléans, Xavier show me a
building tip he used to make the color scheme of the blue/gray TGV.

James Mathis used a close building technique (but different) for the same
locomotive. I've decided to study a bit farther these building tips :

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/JoTaALM/JoTaALM/jotaalm-1.pdf

Didier Enjary

This is a great, I was wondering whether loading a .pdf would be worth it (takes
ages on my PC) but I wasn't disapointed. I had not really noticed James method
before but the half-stud-offset-and-tile method is even better!

Tim

   
         
     
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Dang! You beat me - I'm working on a similar kind of window...

Erik "brickerik" Amzallag wrote:
In my example of the window, I used trans-yellow plates as support in order to
keep the transparency. It is a good way to reconcile ClassicSpace and
ClassicCastle fans ;-)
I'm using transclear 1x1 and 1x2 for the glasses, with studs out to make
them look like crown glass, and I use two plates stacked on each other
to improve the overall stability of the window.

Nonetheless, the idea to put the 1x1 diagonally on a plate to get the
right distances is absolutely amazing!

Yours, Christian

   
         
   
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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Really cool window!!! How did you get it to be transluecent on the back but still hold together?

-Stefan-

   
         
   
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Re: A window using SNOT and SNIR techniques
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In lugnet.build, Stefan Garcia wrote:
   Really cool window!!! How did you get it to be transluecent on the back but still hold together?

-Stefan-

Hi Stefan,

Thanks. I used two 4x10 trans-yellow plates instead of the grey plates.

Erik / brickerik

 

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