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Subject: 
Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:31:17 GMT
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Hey Y'all:

It's been a great contest and I have enjoyed my part in the event as it
unfolded. I would like to thank Curt Tigges, Tom Sciortino, and Jude
Beaudin for all of their help with the various administrative chores
concerning the contest.

The official contest page is available here:
http://www.ozbricks.net/iceplanet/Iceplanet2002/index.htm

I congratulate our winners and thank everyone for their participation.
Really, everyone who entered the contest is a winner (well, except for the
one guy we disqualified for failure to vote!) -- but your peers did select a
few of you as standouts.

The Winners!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cat I - Frostbite Hoverbike (43 pieces) - Chris Maddison
Cat II - Glacial Spike (99 pieces) - Adrian Drake
Cat III - Icesykal Rapid Transport Vehicle (104 pieces) - Gil Shaw
Cat IV - Bison Glacial Defense Vehicle (203 pieces) - Gil Shaw
Cat V - Ice Superiority Fighter Permafrost (416 pieces) - Gil Shaw
Cat VI - Ice Planet 2002 #1592 variation (600 pieces) - Joseph Williams
Cat VII - BZ-33 Frost Fly (76 pieces) - Tom Sciortino
Cat VIII - Icespeeder (200 pieces) - Jude Beaudin
Cat IX - The Ammonia Sea Scout (317 pieces) - Jeff Jardine
Cat X - C-52 Snowstorm (879 pieces) - Tim Romine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I bow to genius.

-- The Ice Worm

P.S.
Softly, she called down to him: "Hey! Old worm! Was this your design?"
There was no answer but then she had not really expected an answer.


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:22:49 GMT
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Thanks kindly to all 4 of you for making this contest possible...it was a blast!

(An icy blast, that is)

Still shocked at everyone's generosity,
-Gil



In lugnet.announce, Richard Marchetti writes:
Hey Y'all:

It's been a great contest and I have enjoyed my part in the event as it
unfolded. I would like to thank Curt Tigges, Tom Sciortino, and Jude
Beaudin for all of their help with the various administrative chores
concerning the contest.

The official contest page is available here:
http://www.ozbricks.net/iceplanet/Iceplanet2002/index.htm

I congratulate our winners and thank everyone for their participation.
Really, everyone who entered the contest is a winner (well, except for the
one guy we disqualified for failure to vote!) -- but your peers did select a
few of you as standouts.

The Winners!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cat I - Frostbite Hoverbike (43 pieces) - Chris Maddison
Cat II - Glacial Spike (99 pieces) - Adrian Drake
Cat III - Icesykal Rapid Transport Vehicle (104 pieces) - Gil Shaw
Cat IV - Bison Glacial Defense Vehicle (203 pieces) - Gil Shaw
Cat V - Ice Superiority Fighter Permafrost (416 pieces) - Gil Shaw
Cat VI - Ice Planet 2002 #1592 variation (600 pieces) - Joseph Williams
Cat VII - BZ-33 Frost Fly (76 pieces) - Tom Sciortino
Cat VIII - Icespeeder (200 pieces) - Jude Beaudin
Cat IX - The Ammonia Sea Scout (317 pieces) - Jeff Jardine
Cat X - C-52 Snowstorm (879 pieces) - Tim Romine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I bow to genius.

-- The Ice Worm

P.S.
Softly, she called down to him: "Hey! Old worm! Was this your design?"
There was no answer but then she had not really expected an answer.


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:50:00 GMT
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In lugnet.announce, Richard Marchetti writes:
Hey Y'all:

It's been a great contest and I have enjoyed my part in the event as it
unfolded. I would like to thank Curt Tigges, Tom Sciortino, and Jude
Beaudin for all of their help with the various administrative chores
concerning the contest.

The official contest page is available here:
http://www.ozbricks.net/iceplanet/Iceplanet2002/index.htm

Nice job, everyone.  What's next year's theme gonna be?

--Dave (jot and jab)


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Date: 
Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:50:53 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Dave Lovelace writes:
In lugnet.announce, Richard Marchetti writes:
Hey Y'all:

It's been a great contest and I have enjoyed my part in the event as it
unfolded. I would like to thank Curt Tigges, Tom Sciortino, and Jude
Beaudin for all of their help with the various administrative chores
concerning the contest.

The official contest page is available here:
http://www.ozbricks.net/iceplanet/Iceplanet2002/index.htm

Nice job, everyone.  What's next year's theme gonna be?


I hope it's M-tron.  I'll just swap the trans gray and trans red on the
Blood Moon to trans-antifreeze, and tack a couple of logos on, and I've got
myself a winner :)

Adrian
--
www.brickfrenzy.com


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Date: 
Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:05:03 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Adrian Drake writes:
In lugnet.build.contests, Dave Lovelace writes:
In lugnet.announce, Richard Marchetti writes:
Hey Y'all:

It's been a great contest and I have enjoyed my part in the event as it
unfolded. I would like to thank Curt Tigges, Tom Sciortino, and Jude
Beaudin for all of their help with the various administrative chores
concerning the contest.

The official contest page is available here:
http://www.ozbricks.net/iceplanet/Iceplanet2002/index.htm

Nice job, everyone.  What's next year's theme gonna be?


I hope it's M-tron.  I'll just swap the trans gray and trans red on the
Blood Moon to trans-antifreeze, and tack a couple of logos on, and I've got
myself a winner :)

My understanding was that IP 2002  was done out of sequence because it was
2002... not because the themes are being chosen in preference order. My
expectation was that the next theme will be the next one in sequence.

But I do like M-tron!



Adrian
--
www.brickfrenzy.com


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:57:14 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Larry Pieniazek writes:
My understanding was that IP 2002  was done out of sequence because it was
2002... not because the themes are being chosen in preference order. My
expectation was that the next theme will be the next one in sequence.

Larry's comment got me wondering "What sequence?"  So I moseyed on over to
Fibblesnork and found the following approx. dates (asterisks indicate the
themes that have been done, the dates I assume were based on the retail
consumer availability of each theme, the question marks are my own approx.
dates -- AND if it looks crappy, try viewing raw, I dunno...):

***Classic Space   1978-1990
Futuron    1987-1993
***Blacktron       1987-1990
Space Police I     1989-1991
M:Tron             1990-1992
Blacktron II       1991-1995
Space Police II    1992-1995
***Ice Planet 2002 1993-1995
Spyrius            1994-1996
Unitron            1994-1996
Exploriens         1996-1998(?)
RoboForce          1997-2000(?)
U.F.O.             1997-2000(?)

So we are doing a pretty bad job of following a sequence having blithely
skipped over Futuron.  No one is really in charge of this contest, unless
Todd wants to administrate it again.  So I guess we all just pick a theme.
If we wanted to go back and attempt to correct the sequence, Futuron is
next.  It'd be nice to have the monorail DAT files made LDraw official
soonish to accomplish the CAD side of that.

Was this already decided elsewhere at some point?

-- Hop-Frog


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:40:34 GMT
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In lugnet.build.contests, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.build.contests, Larry Pieniazek writes:
My understanding was that IP 2002  was done out of sequence because it was
2002... not because the themes are being chosen in preference order. My
expectation was that the next theme will be the next one in sequence.

Larry's comment got me wondering "What sequence?"  So I moseyed on over to
Fibblesnork and found the following approx. dates (asterisks indicate the
themes that have been done, the dates I assume were based on the retail
consumer availability of each theme, the question marks are my own approx.
dates -- AND if it looks crappy, try viewing raw, I dunno...):

***Classic Space   1978-1990
Futuron    1987-1993
***Blacktron       1987-1990
Space Police I     1989-1991
M:Tron             1990-1992
Blacktron II       1991-1995
Space Police II    1992-1995
***Ice Planet 2002 1993-1995
Spyrius            1994-1996
Unitron            1994-1996
Exploriens         1996-1998(?)
RoboForce          1997-2000(?)
U.F.O.             1997-2000(?)

So we are doing a pretty bad job of following a sequence having blithely
skipped over Futuron.

Not all THAT badly, really. My memory is hazy but IIRC BT was chosen over F
because they both started the same year but BT ended earlier so it's
therefore "older by the averages" or something like that. Thus if Futuron
was next, everything would be back in sequence.

No one is really in charge of this contest, unless
Todd wants to administrate it again.

I'm guessing he probably doesn't... might be wrong though.

So I guess we all just pick a theme.
If we wanted to go back and attempt to correct the sequence, Futuron is
next.  It'd be nice to have the monorail DAT files made LDraw official
soonish to accomplish the CAD side of that.

Talk to the powers that be. One of them has one of each type of monorail
track loaned to them (I just raked a claw across my vast horde and there
they were) for the purposes of certifying all the mono parts...

I would argue strongly for F but of course I haven't a lot of standing.

Was this already decided elsewhere at some point?

Ya I think it was, hence my hazy IIRC, I just couldn't find it easily. Wrong
keywords no doubt. Try your luck in the search boxes and see what nuggets
you find!


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:14:21 GMT
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message
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So we are doing a pretty bad job of following a sequence having blithely
skipped over Futuron.  No one is really in charge of this contest, unless
Todd wants to administrate it again.  So I guess we all just pick a theme.
If we wanted to go back and attempt to correct the sequence, Futuron is
next.  It'd be nice to have the monorail DAT files made LDraw official
soonish to accomplish the CAD side of that.

Was this already decided elsewhere at some point?

-- Hop-Frog

According to my 1987 and '88 catalogs (North American - perhaps they're
different in other parts of the world?), the Blacktron 'big three' (Invader,
Battrax, and Renagade) came out in '87.  In '88, Futuron came out,
accompanied by the Blacktron Alienator and Message Intercept base.  So
actually, other than our foray into IP 2002, we're keeping right with
schedule.  And I was under the impression that the IP contest was kind of an
unofficial part II to December's Blacktron 1 contest.

Here's what I assumed would happen:

December 2002: Futuron
December 2003: Space Police,
M:Tron, BT2, SP2, etc... all in the order they were originally released.

I've been looking forward to building in Futuron - the bulk of my parts are
from that era and it's an extremely varied theme.  I expect there will be a
lot more entries because so many more color schemes will qualify and also,
Ice Planet is kind of an acquired taste compared to Futuron.    ;)

What exactly is Futuron, anyway?  Just the five or so sets that are White
with trans blue, or is it any of that late classic space looking stuff?  I
assumed white with just about any trans color would be fair game, as well as
the light and sound sets, and all that good stuff.

            -- Tom


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners! (and what shall the next theme be?)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:Gzu4rM.8tG@lugnet.com...
Not all THAT badly, really. My memory is hazy but IIRC BT was chosen over • F
because they both started the same year but BT ended earlier so it's
therefore "older by the averages" or something like that. Thus if Futuron
was next, everything would be back in sequence.


It took some hunting, but I found it.  What you recall is Greg Majewski's
message which got the whole snowball rolling on October 26, 2001.  He
suggested that we continue Todd's contest, suggested Blacktron 1 as the
theme, etc, etc, the rest is history.  Anyway, I've copied the text into
this message.

        -- Tom

Greg Majewski:

Subject: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest

Well, the 1st Annual Space Building Contest was held exactly a year ago.
Will there be a second?

Just throwing an idea here.. if a second contest is formed, may I suggest
the theme this time be Blacktron 1 style as opposed to Classic Space • styled
models? Keeping that running, the 3rd contest could be Futuron, the 4th
Space Police, etc, etc.

So, do we have anything?

Greg Majewski


Subject: 
Re: Ice Planet 2002 Contest Winners!
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What exactly is Futuron, anyway?  Just the five or so sets that are White
with trans blue, or is it any of that late classic space looking stuff?  I
assumed white with just about any trans color would be fair game, as well as
the light and sound sets, and all that good stuff.
IMHO futuron is any set that has a Futuron minifig, which I define as:
white torso with futuron pattern in color x (where color x is the color of
the fig)
helment in color x
visor in tr-dk-blue
classic smile head
arms + hands in color x
airtanks in color x
legs and hips in color x
All of these sets appear to use a white, black and transparent dark blue
color scheme (so thats what I am inclined to believe a futuron MOC should use)

Note that this is the same classification that the lugnet guide uses for
the theme.
Some of the sets use bits in other colors here and there (e.g. the blue
droid in 6884 or the red cones in the same set) but for the most part,
futuron is black, white and transparent dk blue (which is great because I
got lots of all 3 colors now, no monorail though :( )

The only possible anomaly is set 1974 (a multi-set special). The space set
in that pack is labeled futuron by the lugnet guide and its 99.9% futuron.
The only thing that makes it different is the fact that the helmet is white
instead of black.


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