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Hi. I've seen the question of why the 4551 is referred to as "crocodile" posted a couple times so here's a little background... Lego set #4551, while not prototype, bears a striking resemblance to the Austrian Federal Railways class 1020 electric (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The Great Book of Trains by Brian Hollingsworth & Arthur Cook has a photo of No. 1020.14 in red with white stripe and a 2 page drawing of No. 1020.38 also red with white stripe. There is also an photo of No. 1020.41 in the colour of dark (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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Brian Williams wrote in message <36BA6F61.D6E@ameritech.net>... (...) If you care to have a look at a LEGO version of the original Swiss green Crocodile, check out: (URL) select trains, then crocodile from the menu. Unfortunately however, our (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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"you keep using that word...." (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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John Neal wrote (...) Railcar (all one word) is used in Brit practice to refer to an engine-and-carriage (passenger car) all in one combination. Usually diesel. They were in use quite early - before WWII I think - on the GWR (not a GWR buff myself, (...) (26 years ago, 5-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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In a situation where f2f contact is not possible (such as here), being as precise as possible is necessary to insure misunderstandings and unnecessary flamages don't occur. Just refer to it as 4551 or the name Lego calls it, not "Rail car" or (...) (26 years ago, 6-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) US practice as well. Other terms for such a beast are Doodlebug and RDC. (Rail Diesel Car), both of which originally referred to the products of a specific firm. The notion is that one of these units can take the place of a whole train, (...) (26 years ago, 7-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I have several but even if I intended to sell, I shan't sell to someone that isn't interested in the correct terminology. (...) Rather late for that, I'd say. (...) And the reason we are discussing this, strange as it may seem to you, as you (...) (26 years ago, 7-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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No, not what you think!!! I forgot something that interested readers may find interesting. And uninteresting (1) readers should feel free to push N now. (...) Note that "dummy" in model parlance means exactly the opposite of what it means in real (...) (26 years ago, 7-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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Larry P wrote (...) LOL! I can just see the dummy "coach", puffing surreptitiously as it trundles along the elevated tracks, with every horse on the road belwo rearing and shying as it passes. Kevin (26 years ago, 7-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I know we can say many ugly things about 4559, but isn't it a rail car? Non-LEGO examples of rail cars are (if I understand the terminology correctly): - ER-IR4 <URL:(URL) - "S-trains" <URL:(URL) - IC3 <URL:(URL) ER-IR4 and the "S-trains" are (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I would tend to say not, as to me, the defining characteristic of a railcar (or a street car, for that matter) is that it has two trucks (rather than articulated the way the 4559 lead unit is) and that it contains the entire "stuff" of a (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The listed units can all operate on their own. It was the IC3 (three box diesel version of the IR4) that were tested in the US. There are pictures from the test runs at <URL:(URL). Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.trains)
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