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| | | (...) Yes there are LEGO Ambassadors, I am one. We are under NDA so we are very limited in what we can say without permission. If we recieve permission to release information we do so immediately. I honestly can't say what the official status of the (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Ted Michon
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| | | | (...) Eric- Thanks. Glad to know you and the others are on top of this issue that means so much to many of us. At SCLTC we have almost 5 years invested building our club and have reached the point where venues come to us and we have as many events (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | (...) Ted, This is very important feedback. Lets try an informal poll... If 9V trains do get discontinued... 1. Would your club disband or significantly cut back on public appearances? (List your club and number of appearances) 2. Are there any (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | "Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message news:Iwuo0x.BMJ@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Do you want this feedback via e-mail or posted to LUGNET? Mike (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | (...) Lets post it on LUGNET for all to see. I will then collect it and put it together in a single document for those at LEGO to go through. Again honest answers without the vitriol is important. I won't include any fire-brand comments in my (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Bryan Kinkel
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| | | | | Eric, Is there anyway for you to also gather input from "club-less" LEGO train enthusists? While I don't belong to a club or do exhibitions, I do have my own home layout for both myself and my children. And I too have a big investment in 9V gear. I (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | (...) Sure post anything that you feel would be helpful. The reason I wanted to focus on clubs is that they are essentially providing free advertising for LEGO which can be quantified and have a value attached. Any time you can say that LEGO will (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | | (...) Ok, I'll add my $0.02 to the pile. Summary: Lego trains are the reason there are now 100,000 Lego bricks in my Lego room upstairs. Details: When I was a little kid in Wisconsin in the 1970s, we had HO trains in the basement (didn't (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) Here's a reality check. The way LEGO makes train track is realy just wrong. It's way more expensive than it needs to be. Result - LEGO really can't afford to keep producing the existing 9v track and hope to remain profitable. The way I see it, (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Elroy Davis
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| | | | | | | | (...) Without actually having seen the numbers in regards to the company's sales and manufacturering costs, I'm not sure any of us can say definately that that's the reality. We can speculate a lot, but without some hard numbers, I don't think we (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | | | (...) Dear Rafe, thanks for your story here. It was more worth than just 2 cent for me! I only hope some people at LEGO see, that metal track trains attract lots of people and that these often enough end with a 100.000 ++ collection of bricks. And (...) (19 years ago, 4-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Edward Kohl
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| | | | | | | (...) Hey, I have $0.02 here is my take. (...) I’m with you here. In 2002 I went to my first Brickfest. At that point I had just about no bricks and no Lego room. After that I started with castle but still did not have much in the way of bricks or a (...) (19 years ago, 5-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | (...) . . . . (...) I wish to add my $0.02 worth also I think this story can be told by many Rafe, just change the names and ages and you have summed up my history with Lego Trains as well. (which has now made me a bit paranoid, is someone watching (...) (19 years ago, 6-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | (...) Hi Gary, I'd really encourage you guys to voice this information to ILTCO, or at (URL) - if TLC don't hear it, they can't take it into account when making their decision. And it appears their deadline is not far off. ROSCO (19 years ago, 7-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —John Gerlach
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| | | | | (...) The GMLTC doesn't do too many appearances each year. But, almost all our appearances are at 'train events' - model railroading shows and at the Jackson Street Roundhouse in St. Paul. We consider ourselves model railroaders first, and Lego (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Ted Michon
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| | | | | (...) SCLTC (Southern California LEGO Train Club does about 6 display events covering 100 show days that attract about 150,000 visitors per year. The trend is upward. (...) We probably could not avoid having some members bring IR trains to our (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Anthony Sava
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| | | | | (...) I am a Castle Builder who as only recently begun collecting trains, and even more recently, building MOC trains, and both specifically for the purpose of bringing them to TexLUG displays. Yes, they're for my enjoyment, too, but as a Castle (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Todd Thuma
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| | | | | (...) Eric, The poll is a great idea. I have posted below answers to your three items. I have also added a few survey items that I humbly submit for you to include. 1. Would your club disband or significantly cut back on public appearances? (List (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Todd Thuma
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| | | | | | (...) Oh, and I was misled. I thought the trains were radio controlled. Apprently, they are Infra-RED controlled. I mistakenly put radio in my post. I revise my statement in the EE Degree. I will now need a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | "Todd Thuma" <thumat@gactr.uga.edu> wrote in message news:Iwus58.yn2@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) Bluetooth would have been the right answer! Mike (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Ted Michon
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| | | | | | (...) Todd- IR is cheaper and easier than R/C. R/C requires regulatory approval in many places (like the US) and frequencies must vary with country. IR can be the same everywhere and requires no approvals. Of course IR has the disadvantage of being (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Philippe Label
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| | | | | In lugnet.trains, Eric Kingsley wrote: [...] (...) Hello Eric, As a member of FreeLUG (ILTCO affiliated) and a 9V train fan here are some answers to your questions. 1 In 2005 we had about 4 public appearances with train layouts. Personnally I manage (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —James Powell
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| | | | | (...) I would assume this would cause problems over the long term. Since I own 20+ 9V motors myself, and represent the major train interest in Victoria, BC. I have done shows in the past around here, as well as aiding PNLTC, NALUG, NovaLUG, and VLC. (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) (Speaking for the Twin Cities LEGO Train Club) No. We would continue to do our 2-4 shows a year until all of our 9 volt motors die. (...) Given the design restrictions that appear to be a part of the new system, I can say that, in all (...) (19 years ago, 28-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | (...) Speaking as part of Michiana-LTC, we would continue to do shows until our equipment gave out. We do about 3 or 4 shows per year. (...) Michiana-LTC will likely not widely adopt the new trains other than giving them a small loop of their own. (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Mark Bellis
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| | | | | (...) 1. I would not show LEGO trains in public ever again. This is because my trains are bigger than 8-wide, and I would be ashamed to mislead the public by displaying an obsolete product. I'm not prepared to change my sales pitch from an (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) This is a good point which bears repeating in my mind. If TLG thinks that we as LEGO train AFOLs think this will somehow be a BETTER system, then they are (again) sorely mistaken. As Mark said, however, TLG is a toy company, so the point may (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Just a thought question from this: What do folks think about the fact that almost every other model railroad displayed at a train show displays obsolete, no longer available products? How about the American Flyer folks, or the vintage Lionel (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Being Discontinued? —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | (...) Particular products may be "no longer available", but the *system* is still available. Just because the friendly N-scalers at the next layout are running a locomotive that was last sold in 1985 doesn't change the fact that there are hundreds (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | (...) For what its worth this is one thing I have asked specifically about and have yet to get an answer. If there were a really good rechargable battery would that make a differance. My feeling is that it depends on the following. 1. Pulling power (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Bert Waters
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| | | | | | | (...) One more. Tim from RichLUG wrote: (...) No and no (at least not right away). We only do about 3-4 public appearances each year. Amoung our group, we have a significant amount of track, motors and controllers - enough to continue to run large (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | (...) In which case it might be interesting to answer: How much more would you (or your club) be willing to pay for 9V track and accessories? ROSCO (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Bert Waters
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| | | | | | | | (...) Tim actually wrote this. I've just been compiling our responses. That's a good question.We purchased 20 packs of track at a brick and mortar with the 10% LUG discount several weeks ago.That was still $240 for 160 straights. Would I pay LEGO (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Discontinued? - Rechargeable Batteries —Mark Bellis
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| | | | | | (...) (SNIP) (...) It seems there are a few types of rechargeable batteries to consider: NiCds are made obsolete by the European RoHS directive (banning Cadmium), and they also suffer from memory effect. NiMH are becoming more common in standard (...) (19 years ago, 2-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: 9V Discontinued? - Rechargeable Batteries —Mathew Clayson
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| | | | | | (...) The trains at LLCA apear to use gel cell/lead acid batteries. I'm considering a similar system, and have already tested something like it. I built a 4 wide train for a recent display. I used 4.5v track but had it spaced 2 studs apart enstead (...) (19 years ago, 3-Apr-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Bert Waters
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| | | | | (...) I asked other members of RichLUG to respond last evening so we could reach consensus. So far Rich and Dustin have responded: Rich - I don't believe that our club would disband over this. If it was a decision by consensus to use the new train (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | In lugnet.trains, Eric Kingsley wrote: Dear Eric, (...) The club is already inactive as club. 1000steine is running and guiding the fan activity in Germany. Me and other (former?) FGLTC members join the 1000steine-land and other shows like the (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: 9V Train Motor Being Discontinued? —Tony Hafner
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| | | | (...) Having not actually used the new trains, some of this is conjecture. Running one for a weekend on a layout first will give me a better perspective. But.. From what I have seen, I doubt they would be suitable replacements for the existing (...) (19 years ago, 30-Mar-06, to lugnet.trains)
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