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Re: One New Train in Two Liveries-- Your opinion
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Date: 
Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:02:45 GMT
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James Mathis wrote:
> I would appreciate your feedback to help me with a decision.  Not for
> sale...yet...an announcement and decision to be made.
> 
> Inspired by the upcoming <http://www.mrcog-nm.gov/Rail_Runner.htm New Mexico
> Rail Runner> (scroll to the bottom of the page to see an artist's illustration
> of the train), I have enjoyed the cooperation of the MRCoG to employ their
> artwork onto a model of their train which MRCoG/NMDoT employees may purchase.
> 
> <<http://www.brickbuilttrains.com/rr_or_bbt/nm_rr_v6_p10_small.png>>
> 
> Here is a <http://www.brickbuilttrains.com/rr_or_bbt/nm_rr_v6_p1.jpg picture of
> a real-brick-build of the Rail Runner train set>.
> 
> I have also generated custom artwork showcasing a Brick Built Trains livery.
> 
> <<http://www.brickbuilttrains.com/rr_or_bbt/bbt_espresso_v6_p3b.png>>
> 
> You are welcome to browse additional images in this
> <http://www.brickbuilttrains.com/rr_or_bbt/ index list>.
> 
> I have created an illustrated instruction book and stickers for both train
> liveries.
> 
> I have also accumulated enough parts to build 6 train sets (one locomotive, one
> passenger car, one driving trailer passenger car; approx. 1200 pieces).  One set
> is for MRCoG, a second is for me, and the other four I hope to sell.  Sales
> priority is given to MRCoG/NMDoT employees.  Complete ready-to-run train sets
> with track, motor, and speed controller total up to be $530 each.
> 
> However, I am not sure that all-- if any-- of the Rail Runner liveried sets will
> be purchased by MRCoG/NMDoT employees.  It is with this in mind that I seek your
> considerate input.  Sales to persons or parties other than MRCoG/NMDoT will
> likely require me to acquire a license from MRCoG to use and sell products
> bearing the Rail Runner name and artwork.  I would be allowed to sell complete
> bricks-in-a-box train sets, instructions, and Rail Runner stickers with the
> acquisition of this license.  But, is it worth the money?  The value of this
> license is on the order of hundreds of dollars.  I would have to increase the
> cost of each Rail Runner train set to reflect the cost of the license.
> 
> Does anyone like the Rail Runner livery enough to spend an additional $100 to
> purchase a bricks-in-a-box Rail Runner train set (total $630!)?
> 
> Does anyone like the Brick Built Trains livery enough to spend $530 to purchase
> a bricks-in-a-box BBT train set?
> 
> I've been working on this in relative isolation since mid-July, and I am to the
> point where I'm not exactly sure what to do next.  This train community is a
> wonderful forum with persons passionate for our beloved hobby, and I have
> sincerely missed the usual freedom of exchange regarding works-in-progress and
> new models.  I have been remiss in my participation during the last few months
> as I have delved so deeply into this Rail Runner project. I have been extremely
> pleased to lurk here and see so many wonderful new models and train show
> galleries-- excellent work!  I sincerely respect your comments.
> 
> Thanks for browsing the images of this train project and offering your input as
> to a direction to take this project.
> 
> later,
> 
> James Mathis

James,

   That is a great model, but I am not your target audience. I love the
set, I just can't see spending that much on a train. I say this knowing
that I have probably spent almost that much on the trains that I have
built myself, but it least it wasn't all at once :)
   James, you really have a tough choice to make. Your Espresso train is
cool, but for some crazy reason or another, the real livery seems
cooler. I don't know if it is 19% cooler... If you could just get them
to be more flexible with their IP, afterall it's not like you are trying
to license Thomas the Train or StarWars... In the end, I think your best
selling points for the model---beside that fact that it looks cool---are
the real livery and the fact that you made it. Does your name carry
enough cachet to have a signed limited edition set worth it? I mean,
your name _does_ have some serious cachet around here, I just don't know
if it translates into money :) For your sake, I hope it does.

Good luck and thanks for sharing,
Chris

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(...) Yeah, I'm a little sticker-shocked right now with my purchases to get all the parts for six complete sets! I think a lot of us are willing to shell out a lot of money for our own MOCs. Different story when it comes to buying someone else's (...) (21 years ago, 9-Nov-05, to lugnet.trains)

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I would appreciate your feedback to help me with a decision. Not for sale...yet...an announcement and decision to be made. Inspired by the upcoming (URL) New Mexico Rail Runner> (scroll to the bottom of the page to see an artist's illustration of (...) (21 years ago, 7-Nov-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX) ! 

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