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Re: MOC New Sgns Container car
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Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:54:39 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   Hello Ludo,

In lugnet.trains, Ludo Soete wrote:
   Hi train freaks,

I’ve just uploaded a rendering of a 40-Feet container (LxWxH cm = 1219 x 244 x 259) (24studs x 6studs x 6bricks) and accompanying train car. For the container, only the lenght is to scale, not the witht and height, To be on scale, the width should be aprox. 5 studs and the height 5 studs too (1 stud equals aprox. 50 cm). The container has 2 doors that can open (2 x 6 studs), witch cause the problem of width & height dimensions.

The accompanying car is of the type Sgns (info at : http://www.sbbcargo.com/index/srvneuwagentypen-angebot.htm ) and can carry one 20-Feet and one 40-Feet container, OR, 1 40-Feet container in the center of the freight car. The lenght of the carrier in 37 studs long,and 6 studs wide. This means that one 40-Feet type container (24 studs long) AND one 20-Feet type container (12 studs long) fit on the car, as in reality. Due to the larger width of the containers, build i the carrier on 6 studs wide, witch should be aprox 4.5 to 5 studs in reality, with gives also building problems.


Thanks for this nice freight car. Hope to see the real moc soon.

I would like to comment on the scale you used. From the link provided, I could read that the base of the car was 2259+/-2mm wide. If I calculate from your scale (1 stud about 50cm) then the car should be 4.5 studs width. Your scale is then 1/62.5, to me this seems a little bit too low. I know these scales are a never ending story since we never know exactly what it should be. However, I usually use between 1/45 and 1/50 depending on the stud resolution, which would give about 6.2 stud width for your freight car, and quite the same for the container. This is obviously what you seems to have done in fact :) You know the scale I mentioned is completely arbitrary, since we never know exactly what object to use as a reference for calculation. The length is another story, we can deal with compression which has also been discussed thouroughly in the past.

Cheers,

Philippe “frogleap” Label, FreeLUG member.

Merci Philippe pour votre reponse!

Now i continue in English. These cars go with my new station (MOC proto type version : http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1214203) to Lego World 2005(Zwolle - Holland)!

Concerning the lenght / width of a car i build, i use a verry simple calculation method. I keep building in 6 wide, so, if the width of a car is aprox. 3m, then i divide this throug 6 (stud width), with give me 50 cm / stud. Then i do the same for the lenght. In this case the lenght of the carrier is 18m40cm, divide by 50 cm gives me 36.8 studs, round up to 37 studs. the width of the BOGIE is 3.062m,the carrier where the containers are loaded is 2259+/-2mm wide. info found on : http://www.aae.ch/e/wagen/wagen_09.htm

Most cars i build have a ratio between 43cm/stud and 50cm/stud.

Regards and see you perhaps in Reims (F) OR in Zwole (NL)!

Ludo



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Hello Ludo, (...) Thanks for this nice freight car. Hope to see the real moc soon. I would like to comment on the scale you used. From the link provided, I could read that the base of the car was 2259+/-2mm wide. If I calculate from your scale (1 (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jun-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)

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