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Re: Has anyone made an American 4-4-0 with BBB wheels?
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Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:34:38 GMT
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Thanks! I hope you didn't think I meant that you are the "boy" in this analogy!
I have been coping your work for years! :D

Initally I had the cab further back but the MOC (LEGO selective compression
etc... tight radius etc...) called for this positiong, othwerwise the cab would
swing way out around a curve and not stay coupled to the tender so well, you do
what you gotta do. In the pic of the line drawing it's not to far off as is...

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/SEBarile/Engines/260DRG/linedrawing.jpg

As for the tender, I wish I had more med Orange for more detailing, maybe as
more comes out I'll revisit it. I did try mixing the oranges but that was a
little to painful on the eys! I thought maybe it would "fake" a shadow etc...
but instead it just looked like a fashion nightmare!

Now that I look closer at your tender how are the leading and trailing wheels
attached? Can you back thru a switch? (I had this kind of an issue before).

SteveB


In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
Steven Barile wrote:

Yes, the piston and connecting rod design certain can seperate the men from the
boys (& women from the girls). In fact that's where most of my time was spent on
the Bumble Bee! And BTW thanks for the confession! :)

Yeah, the men go home, but the boys dig deeper into their LEGO bins for
just the right part :)


Here's a few pics and a few words:
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/6849

SteveB
PS I hope you don't mind me posting my MOC on your thread!

Ha ha, my thread. This is actually Jonathan's thread asking for examples
of MOC's using Big Ben Bricks drivers. Sure, your design is a 2-6-0, but
that has the same munber of wheels as a 4-4-0, so its mostly the same,
right?

Anyway, I like your engine. I noticed that your cab starts above the
wheels. Is that more prototipical than mine or does it depend on the
specific model? I started my cab between the wheels because that is how
I thought the 4-4-0's did it. It doesn't leave much room in there for
minifigs though. I hope someone will correct me if the cab should start
above the wheels on a prototypical 4-4-0. I am also curious about the
leading truck. Are they locked to the frame on real 2-6-0's or do they
swivel? In the eng, I think you came up with an interesting and cool
solution to a sticky problem.

As far as the tender goes, well tenders are tenders. They are square
boxes. That is why I did the crazy 8 to 7-wide thing on my tender. The
change in width two plates from the bottom makes the squareness of the
tender more bearable for me. At least yours breaks up the orange box
with some nice striping.

Of course, your engine looks great with your houses in the background! I
like the how you found a way to use those ever present and somewaht
annoying yellow window inserts:)

Thanks for sharing,
Chris


In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:

steve barile wrote:


Nice work Chris! Can you explain a little about your driver links. It looks like
the piston rod is static and that technic element slides along it...???

SteveB

Thanks for the exclamation point, and, yep, you got the piston thing
right. I wanted a round cylinder. In the picture that I was using, the
cylinder looked like a cylinder with a box on top. I choose to emphasize
the cylinder instead of the box. However, an axle cannot move freely in
and out of the 2x2 rounds that I used for the cylinder. So, I decided to
slide the drive rod on the piston rod. It's a cheat, but it is not an
_obvious_ cheat :) If you look very closely at the technic elements, and
think very hard about the sizes and shapes of those elements, you might
come to realize that I did something very, _very_ bad :( I couldn't
think of anything else, and boy that slope is slippery. Luckily, the
NELUG guys still let me run it even though it is an unpure, modded
abomination.


PS I just finished a 2-6-0 Mogul in Rio Grande Bumblebee livery (Med Orange,
Black & Gray). Pic to follow tonight.

I look forward to seeing it.

Chris


In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:


In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Wilson wrote:


Building an American 4-4-0 seems like the perfect use for the new BBB
wheels, anyone done it yet? (I plan to give it a go myself when I can
afford to get some BBB wheels to do it with :)

Yep, and surprisingly if you google "American 4-4-0 LEGO" you get a bunch of
hits. One is mine :)

http://users.rcn.com/cjmasi/lego/trains/engines/american_4-4-0/american_4-4-0.html

Chris



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(...) Oh, sure I ask you about a few nit picky details and you go right for the "does it work" jugular vein. Just kidding. Actually, it doen't get run that much, so I did some preliminary testing. I ran it backwards over a point with five 8-wide (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jan-05, to lugnet.trains)

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(...) Yeah, the men go home, but the boys dig deeper into their LEGO bins for just the right part :) (...) Ha ha, my thread. This is actually Jonathan's thread asking for examples of MOC's using Big Ben Bricks drivers. Sure, your design is a 2-6-0, (...) (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.trains)

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