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  Re: Semi-new train sets - 10157 & 10158 (from 4511 World City HS Train)
 
(...) Hi, fine, you will get an oldgray 4511 with oldgray track-circle, cause it's launched and produced in 2003 plus 2 newgray 10158s and 8 newgray straights. What a garbage! Hope this set will never be sold in Germany. Regards Ronald (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Semi-new train sets - 10157 & 10158 (from 4511 World City HS Train)
 
(...) I don't doubt the colour change in the train, but has anyone actually seen the new dark grey in any track pieces from TLC yet? Jason Railton (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Semi-new train sets - 10157 & 10158 (from 4511 World City HS Train)
 
(...) Be aware - it is out there. :( (URL) :) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.color)

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