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Re: New Train Truck (bogie) Design
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Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:53:09 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
Necessity is the mother of invention....

Until now, I had been happy with using standard LEGO trucks when building my
train cars, even though they are prototypically incorrect for US versions.
Most US rolling stock use a truck that closely resembles this truck here (a
bettendorf):
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3403

I have created a new train car that required a truck redesign in order to look
and work correctly (sorry, pics to come later:-)  My first design attempt was
based on Chris Tracey's idea:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279857

Ross pondered my problem and came up with another idea that, although requiring
serious mutilation (caveat purist;-) was a much cleaner design than my initial
one and so we ran with his.

I hope these pics are clear enough to follow-- black is a cuss to photograph:-p
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279856
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279859
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279861

Basically, you have a 2x6 black plate under the wheels with a 2x3 black plate
in between them.  Cover that with half studs, and place a 4x4 plate on top, add
another 2x6 for strength and to raise the 2x2 turntable 1 more plate.  The side
bars are attached with the 1x2/1x4 bracket.

But when we went to test the trucks, we found that we had serious friction
issues with this design because we were relying on the 4x4 plate to keep the
wheels straight.  As we pondered this problem, I came up with the idea of using
technic bushings to keep the wheels straight and prevent rubbing on the 4x4
plates:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279863

They simple float on the axles to reduce the drag significantly enough (though
not nearly as much as a standard LEGO wheel) to make the design a functioning
success.  I have decided that I am going to use this design on all TCLTC
rolling stock. Final pics of the completed truck:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279864
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=279866

All pics: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=7051


-John

John,
I had a similar problem some time ago with my 3 axle car wagons:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=248393

,where the middle axle is "naked" ie without the outer part.

I used the 1x2 door rail plates too,but I put 2 of them side by side
(realizing a 1x4 plate with door rail)

Another solution I tried was to use the 1x1 brick modified with headlight. I
used 2 of them,spaced of 2,with the side studs looking outwards.
Else a couple of 1x1 or 1x2 technic bricks with 1/2 pegs inside the holes.

Cheers,
Gianluca



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(...) Yes, as far as I can tell, that is my application as well (articulation). I would like to see more pics of your MOC, as well as more in general from you Italian 8 widers-- I love your stuff! I will be posting my cars in a week or so. (...) My (...) (22 years ago, 2-Dec-02, to lugnet.trains)

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