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Re: New Train Sets #10013 and #10014
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct
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Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:29:15 GMT
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cmasi@cmasi(spamcake).chem.tulane.edu
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John Neal wrote:
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> Christopher Masi wrote:
snip my (Chris's) critique of the new trains
> > the source of some substantial building issues. (By the way, does this mean LEGO
> > is now officially making trains 8 studs wide ;)[1]
snip more of my critique of the new trains
> > Two things bother me about this line of trains. (1) The extensive use of the 4x6
> > double sided roof piece in the caboose (10014) and the coach (10017). I'd rather
> > have more flexible (use wise) parts. (2) These aren't "normal" train sets. It
> > seems that LEGO direct is interested in LEGO trains, but LEGO (normal) isn't.
> > Unless models like the caboose are included in the LEGO catalogues that go into
> > the regular models I worry that a lot of potential buyers will be missed. So,
> > the train line will not sell as well as it could, and LEGO "normal" will
> > continue to neglect trains.
>
> Okay, Chris, now here are 2 things I *like* about this line of trains.
> (1) Their ability to appeal to 2 different groups. These trains are fairly basic and
> can appeal to kids and AFOLs who enjoy running stock LEGO trains-- they look good
> enough to run out of the box (as opposed to, say, the 4561, 4533, etc). They also have
> appeal to LTDs and other AFOLs who crave specialty train parts such as the 1x2x3 green
> train window or the 1x2x2 black thin wall with clear pane; or parts in new colors, such
> as the 1x2 green log brick, or the 1x2 clear plate.
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> (2) Their price points. These sets are relatively cheap, which is good for LTDs and
> parts bursters alike. This, actually, addresses one of your complaints about the roof
> piece. I guess I don't mind the POOPs, because they are keeping the overall price
> down. For me, I see these sets as beefed up parts packs. Except for a few choice
> elements, most of the set is extraneous, so the cheaper the better. For someone
> willing to run a set out of the box unchanged, I think that it wouldn't be an issue
> anyway.
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> As far as LEGO's interest in trains goes, it does appear that LD has taken the mantle
> of the trains theme and is running with it. What is good about that is that when these
> and other offerings do well, it *will* spark the interest of "LEGO normal", and that
> means financially *justifiable* reasons to augment the 45xx line (which presumably
> would mean new parts, track? etc).
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> But even if "LEGO normal" continues to neglect 9 volt, it wouldn't be so bad, because
> it is my understanding that LD can accomplish most of what "LEGO normal" can anyway.
>
> -John
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> > Chris
> >
> > 1. I got this one for you John :)
Hi John,
I just wanted to make certain that every one knew that I brought you into this
as a joke. I got the 8 stud wide comment in so you wouldn't have to.
You make some very good points. In the end, LEGO is making trains, and the
prices are reasonable, so it is a step in the right direction. (The song "Follow
the Yellow BRICK Road" just popped into my head. How appropriate:)
Chris
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See some of my LEGO creations at http://cmasi.chem.tulane.edu/~lego/
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