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(...) Sorry but this just emphasizes TLC's lack of sophistication in developing their web site. It's extremely unprofesional to put something like this up. All the broken links to pictures makes the site look worse than it already is. If something (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) True enough, but I'm able to view at least most of the new products (haven't yet checked them all, and some of the alternate images aren't "available"). Dave! (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Now that the pictures can be seen, one can notice a difference between the small engine with tender and the small engine without tender. If you notice, the small engine without tender does NOT have the numer 317 on the side. Instead of the 317 (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) They look great indeed, I like the small ones with tender. I am though disapointed that there are no special train parts like doors or windows, which would make them great sets for parts. They also added the electric set, so - please give us (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Well they do have the small black "train" windows on the cab (kind of hard to see in the pictures) so there are some "special" pieces...but of course they don't have the glass in the windows. jt (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yes, the airplane windows are great! And don't forget the black 2x2 domes-- that is a new color for that element and a *great* part for creating Steam engines:-) -John (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You could get coaches from BricWorx. Dwayne Towell www.bricworx.com FUT: lugnet.shopping (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) That's the most interesting question in the whole discussion: is there a classic window in 2x2 (that would be great!!)? Or is it a airplane window (the window area looks to big for that..)? The pictures are modified, so you cannot guess if (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I don't know if they modified the design since the the S@H catalogs came out, but you can see the window(s) very clearly in this picture: (URL) guess some would call them "airplane" windows, but to me all windows are "train" windows :) It (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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What's all the fuss about? They don't look great to me. They look like those kiddy rides you find in theme parks to me. A steam train should have cilinders, pushrods etcetera. These are on bogey's from a Diesel. Also, they lack detail; half the (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'm sorry you feel that way. To me, anything new in the train line is worth a fuss. JMHO Katie (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hear, hear! If it's a choice between the new sets and the Prefab Jr. Express, I'll take the new sets. No, they're not perfect, but they look considerably better than what we've seen lately. Dave! (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:GC9C5G.H4v@lugnet.com... (...) those (...) worth a (...) I agree - new stuff is always good news. FWIW - you can order one from S@H - they are back ordered and expected into their wharehouse (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Drats! I can't make up my mind which ones I want to start with. Otherwise I would have been #2 right behind you. Katie (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Do not know if anybody else noticed or not, but all 4 engines are different. The ones without tender are open cab and the ones with tender are enclosed cab. Also, the placement of the 317 is slightly different Thanx, Mark Millère LUGnet # 525 (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I saw that. The ones with tenders are open at the rear, whereas the others have an inverted sloping coal scuttle on the back, and redesigned open sides. Whilst this is an interesting design (particularly on the large one), I think the bigger (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It says May 23rd! How Come everything I'm gonna order is back ordered? When i last ordered i decided not to add the black wagon plate, theni found out it was back ordered, i'm glad, cause then i would have had to wait for it. Is it just me or (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I agree. And to get the airplane windows, you must get the largest version. (...) That's good-- more American that way:-) (...) I think that they are all the exact same photograph with the colors actually altered in Photoshop or something. (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's just you;-) (...) To which diesels are you referring? -John (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) yeah! I'm looking at only the ones with tenders, the non-tender ones look cheep. BTW where's RED, Yellow, & Orange? I'd like a red one for the tender i have sitting here. Josh (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I'm waiting for some. Josh (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Also new color parts includes the 1x1 brick with handle in green and brown, inverse brown slope (another source for green, also). Looks like another source for black door rails and low slope train roofs. (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Feel free to provide a cite. The two truck (larger) one looks a bit like a Shay (in which case the background ought to be a forest, with logging going on) but other than that, no. ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) hey with a dummy technic drive, it could be one! Josh (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, Shays, Heislers, and Climaxes have been used for mining also. Certainly the bulk of Shays served in the woods, but I think at least some served in the South West. I must admit that "geared loco" jumped into my mind quickly when I saw the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Move the boiler offcenter to make it more authentic, but yes, that is what struck me about it when I first saw it. ++Lar (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Not much room when you're..... uh, nevermind;-) {:^D John (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's not so much the design as the colour scheme. The configuration of the ones without tenders is pretty European, but the large cabs on the tender engines and the panelled style is typically American - European engines tended to be more (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) But the Thatcher Perkins is, like, more than twice as large as today's trains. And it still doesn't implement the correct kind of pushrod/cylinder movement. If a LEGO set was perfect to the degree that there wasn't any room to improve it, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) no. The two truck one looks more like a Mallet. Never mind a shay, which Ron Kittle (?) built _ages_ ago :) James (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) We're not arguing about anything important. They are what they are. I think we could agree that they're not representative of anything in particular. That said, you're wrong. :-) Let's put it this way. To this American, they don't look (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, perhaps you should look at it from a sales perspective. Diesel engines (IMO) look like a shoebox with wheels. The trains currently on shop.lego.com are far more interesting to look at (IMO) than a diesel engine would be. Things that (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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[snip] (...) Wow! Those are the price ranges I was hoping for but I did not expect them. Guess I will be ear marking money for several of those just for parts. Woo Hoo! -Mike Petrucelli aka Lord Insanity (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hey, speaking of Ron and his awesome Shay, it was a pleasure for me to meet him and see his MOC in person at the Kidvention last summer. His Shay has working pistons and all. Are there pics of it on the web somewhere? -John (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) LOL You are SOOOOO wrong! (IMNSHO;-) (...) You are between 1st and 2nd and the throw to home has been cut off. This is what happens when muffinheads start talking trains;-) -John (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Yeah, yeah, we know. They're not eight-wide. 8^) (...) If I may make a guess, though, Muffinhead isn't speaking about the scrupulous LEGO representation of detailed trains as they appear in the real world; he's saying that the average (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The simple answer is- WHO CARES? I don't :) Mind you, some have said that I have steam in my blood... Coughs and Sneezles Spread Disezles :) Some nice Co-Bo or similer oddball diesels, along with a SD 9 would be nice (Or a SD7, anything with (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You're still bitter because diesels marked the end of steam-- get over it! ;-) (...) Thank you, Ben. Or was it Bill? Those two can be very aggravating-- just ask Boco... (...) Why 6? A B truck is a natural, given the 9 volt motor... (...) And (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) You are so right. Mundanes want cute. They think trains are cute things that puff. Think Little Engine that Could. Think Thomas!!! (every show should have a Thomas...) In fact, in this month's TRAINS, REAL railroad museums were talking about (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Agreed. Don't forget that in the process of helping to promote LTC's at train shows, LEGO gets to send a postcard with a picture of one of these cute trains to lots and lots of people. I don't think that's an accident, neh? FWIW, I'm not a (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Oh no I'm not. Oh yes you are. That's the way to do it! etc. They're just too mixed, so they look foreign to everyone instead of familiar. (...) Too right you're - hang on - No, forget it. Well, you don't even give Europe a capital 'E'. Sulk. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Quite simple: The UK were there first. The diesel engines for the CN loco's came from Hunslet, and Hunslet built the first really successful DE's in the world, for some of the South American railways. I don't argue the impossible, nothing is (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Mundanes? Er --wha? Oh... for a moment there, I thought this newsgroup had accidentally got cross-posted to lugnet.off-topic.sca ;^D ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head -- Mark's Lego(R) Creations (URL) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yeah, you got it! North America (including Mexico) has alot of huge locos, and there are some intersting ones they could build too. Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Thats true, and they could do that with diesels too. Look at a SD40-2F ((URL) thats interesting, and i know i'd but one! Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) IMO they are representative of "Lego". Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) IMO A true trainman lieks how a Diesel looks and how a Steam Engine looks, he/she can apreciate both. Josh (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Don't mess with Big Diesel! -Harvey (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) LOL Chris (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) LOL Chris (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Have not, will too, didn't either! (...) Should have let me have last word. Siggy doesn't count. :-) ++Lar (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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